JTK wrote:
> ravi narayan wrote:
>>
>> these are uncalled for ad hominem attacks on the folks
>
> Ah, no, they're not "folks". "Folks" is a word that us old-timers
> reserve to refer to ourselves.
>
i am using folks in its commonly accepted sense - a group of people.
its possible you are older than some of them, but that does not
preclude the use of the term, i would think.
>
>> who spend
>> their time developing mozilla, the code and the art that goes with
>> it, especially since it seems to be a largely democratic project
>> with input taken from all.
>
>
> Largely democratic, hence the commie graphics. Riddle me this Ravi:
> what do you think the chances would be of a "neo-USA" graphic getting in
> there, all red white and blue, perhaps with the Statue of Liberty on it?
>
assuming that the graphics are as customizable as the rest of mozilla,
i would guess the chances of that happening are the same as the
chances of someone developing the graphics. is your complaint that the
deveopers and distributors of mozilla ship with default "commie"
graphics (i am not much of an art historian, but i am not sure that
your interpretation of the work as commie or neo-soviet is the only
valid one)? if so, then cant the capitalist enthusiasts pick up the
sources, develop the graphics and distribute a capitalist mozilla?
>
>> it takes more than being hip or trendy
>> to diligently turn out an excellent free software product.
>
> Right, which is probably why Mozilla isn't an excellent free software
> product, and why it has commie art.
>
so you dont like mozilla as a product? that still leaves me puzzled.
you can stop using it and move on, or you can contribute to it,
either through coding, or through developing "non-commie" graphics
that might suit your taste. i believe mozilla is a great software
product, and i can understand that you may disagree, but i do not
understand the nature of your protest - or are you simply registering
your protest for the record?
>
>> rather
>> than call them "kiddies" etc, why not produce alternate graphics
>> that is to your preference and send us all a link?
>
> Well, speaking for myself:
>
> 1. I'm not "trendy".
> 2. I'm not a very good artist.
> 3. If you want money for people with minds that hate, all I can tell
> you is, brother, you have to wait.
>
but if you do not think you can develop the graphics, or get someone
to do it for you, what is it that can be done? is it that you want
some others (those that developed the graphics you dislike) to
build the graphics that you would like for you?
--ravi
