On Saturday 25 June 2005 22:24, Gervase Markham wrote:
> Ian Grigg wrote:
> > On goals - I have never been able to identify
> > the goals of the project?  If you can point me
> > at them I'd greatly appreciate it.
> 
> "The mission of the Mozilla project is to preserve choice and innovation 
> on the Internet."
> http://www.mozilla.org/about/

Hmm, ok!  Minor editorial note, please feel free to
pass this on to whoever does the pages:

Everything on the
http://www.mozilla.org/mission.html should be on
other pages, perhaps history.html and function.html.
And the statement above "The mission of the Mozilla
project is to preserve choice and innovation on the
Internet" should be on the page mission.html.  There
should also be some description as to what you mean
by those two claims ("preserve choice and innovation").


So the question then is whether Mozilla really believes
that the mission is to "preserve choice and innovation 
on the Internet."  And how that relates to current activity.


> "The Mozilla Firefox project aims to build the most useful web browser 
> for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X."
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/
> 
> In the area under discussion, I would define "most useful" as "providing 
> the greatest amount of security for the largest number of users".

Well, I'm sure you can see that "most useful" is
just a placemarker for a real mission.  E.g., we
can rule out "second most useful" or "moderately
useful" as a goal, leaving "most useful" as a
sort of statement that says nothing by definition.

(I'm not saying this is a bad thing.  It may just
be that nobody's sat down and worked out the
what and why of it all.  This is quite normal, and
indeed back in the 90s or so there was a big
backlash against "missions" because so many
companies did it because they thought is was
best practices ... only to discover they didn't
understand what they were doing.  And then
came the dotcom boom, and "belief" became
the fashion....)

I'd suspect the *original* mission for Firefox was
to create a good workable browser.  Now that
mission is achieved (e.g., download stats), it
might be a useful exercise to think of where to
go from here.  I.e., craft a mission for the future.

On security in particular:

Frank voiced a catchphrase as "security for
the average user" a while back that speaks
differently to your suggestion of "providing 
the greatest amount of security for the largest
number of users".  Others have suggested
they want the most secure browser for the
educated techie user.

These differences matter. Like Firefox, I'd say
that there might be a spot where a security
mission is to be placed, but the debate on what
to put in that spot hasn't been had as yet.

iang
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Advances in Financial Cryptography, Issue 1:
   https://www.financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000458.html
Daniel Nagy, On Secure Knowledge-Based Authentication
Adam Shostack, Avoiding Liability: An Alternative Route to More Secure Products
Ian Grigg, Pareto-Secure
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