> Did I not disclose as much, and a hell of a lot more
>I wish now I had not, all in an attempt to demonstrate
>a desire for objectivity and possession of both
>worldly knowledge and specific knowledge and
>understanding of the Fair Oaks after being challenged
>by David Piehl?
Yes, you did, Tim, and I appreciate your disclosure on the topic.  It's
interesting information that Basim Sabri had taken the time to ask you to
post on this topic.  This, along with Basim asking David Brauer to post his
take on the hotel (which also took gratuitous swipes at David Piehl and
Walt Gutzmer for being "racists") is useful information.  Personally, I
think it would be great if Basim Sabri would participate in this forum.   

>As to Eva's comment regarding the 25 jobs to be gained
>by this project; i.e., "low level service jobs-will
>these jobs lead to careers?"
>
>First off I find the attitude that service jobs are
>necessarily less than other jobs. As a former waiter I
>suspect i would have hated waiting on Eva given that
>attitude. Actually, 
>To be held in either contempt or
>condescension is equally distateful. I hasten to point
>out that Lisa McDonald, a candidate for Mayor once
>worked as a busperson at 510 Restaurant. 
I used to work in a hotel laundry.  It was a tie for the worst job I ever
had.  (I have also done telephone soliciting, which I also just hated).  I
think you are putting words in my mouth, when you say that I look down on
the people who perform those jobs.  

>Could it be that for (Eva, David Pielhl) their purposes it is preferable
>that as little light as possible be shed on this
>matter and that reasonable ideas and judgements by
>responsible persons be denigrated so that they may
>keep the fires of resentment burning?

I can't speak for David Piehl, just for myself.  I have no interest in
keeping "fires of resentment" going.  Most of my post was criticising Basim
Sabri for trying to obscure the real issue (which is whether or not to
build a motel on that block) by raising the issue of racism.  This gets
done way too often with Central, and I'm a bit tired of this.  

The death threat to the Lors--which mentioned their children is a serious
matter.  Unfortunately, whoever made that death threat succeeded in getting
hte Lors to sell their house and move out of the neighborhood.  

I talked with Steve Brandt on Friday (I really appreciate Steve being on
this list and posting), and there will be a story coming out in the Star
Tribune on this.  Hopefully it will come out soon.  

Eva
Eva Young
Central

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