Wrong again, Mr. Surmak. The whole basis of Roe v. Wade is the right to
privacy the Supreme Court says is implied by the First Amendment. But the
right to privacy can be subordinated by the common good, when necessary, and
that's why Roe states fatly that the state has an interest in preventing
abortions beyond a certain point in gestation. This is a precedent and
principle that can be applied in many instances, including smoking bans in
Minneapolis and Hennepin County (and, hopefully, St. Paul), where the public
interest outweighs property rights.

Andy Driscoll
Saint Paul
--
"The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
‹ Plato

 "Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing
is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."
‹ Lord Acton

on 11/18/05 5:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The right of privacy is not guaranteed or stipulated in our constitution,
> nor do any of my posts claim it is.  In fact, the question of whether or  not
> citizens do, or should, have the right to privacy is often hotly  debated and
> forms the basis of arguements both for and against issues, such as  abortion,
> sexual behavior, etc.
>  
> My point is not that the right to privacy is guaranteed by our  constitution.
>  Personally I believe that citizens should enjoy this  right, and believe it
> should be applied consistently.  I'm also aware  that some do not share my
> point of view, and I respect that.  My point  is about people who invoke the
> right to privacy arguement when it  supports their position, then conveniently
> ignore it when it doesn't; I believe  this smoking ban debate is an example of
> the latter.  Feel free to  disagree with me, but please don't change the
> subject.
> 
> Peter Surmak
> Linden  Hills
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