Hi Folks,

a way to stop is issueing cpf<qmgr> STOP QMGR MODE=FORCE

Take a look on the command in the manual..... it's no so dangours as it
look like, it might just do what you want.... I guess. ;o)
I takes the queue manager down and keeps the integraty.

Best regards

Joergen H. Pedersen
Systemprogrammer
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"Miller, Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@AKH-Wien.AC.AT> on 14-11-2002
18:34:14

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Subject:    Re: Detecting MQ subsystem shutdown


What's the rationale for hanging the qmgr just because there's an app with
open connection is not currently in the midst of an API request?  I mean,
it
COULD be a long time before the app needs MQ services. Or it COULD be a
long
time before the app cooperates and closes the connection.

So, it appears we have this:
1. Qmgr shutdown is issued
2. Qmgr hangs because of open connection
3. Application eventually issues an MQ call
4. Call fails with MQ quiescing
5. Application closes connection
6. Qmgr shutsdown

When this seems much more sensible:
1. Qmgr shutdown is issued
2. Qmgr abandons the connection and shutsdown
3. Application eventually issues an MQ call
4. Call fails with Qmgr not available

I'm with bobee--I still find it funny that the QMGR doesn't just drop the
connection! In fact, that should happen even if there is uncommitted work
because there is no way to actually commit at that point.








> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:47 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Detecting MQ subsystem shutdown
>
> >From: Robert Broderick [mailto:robertbroderick@;HOTMAIL.COM] said...
> <SNIP/>
> >I still find it funny that the QMGR doesn't drop the connection if you
> don't
> >have any uncommited work going on!!
>
> If he's not got an MQI call in progress (he's doing something else) then
> it
> won't fail because he's not waiting on MQ which can fail his call. I
would
> assume the call would fail the next time an MQI call is performed.
>
> Cos' it's OS/390, I am not to sure how you would get it to stop
> immediately
> (endmqm -i on distributed) which would get it to stop and leave the
> connected app behind to fail on the next MQI call.
>
> John.
>
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