tonyB,

That was all the info.  But I have emailed it to your private email address
in HTML format since you asked.  You can see it looks like a normal BMC
Software support web site page. Same info as my original email, just in
HTML.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Boggis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:Re: Large number of QMgrs on a Solaris box...


Dan,

Thanks for the pointers... I'm pretty certain it's just a case of nailing
down the correct kernel parameters.

However, I couldn't get to your doc because the site requires cookies
enabled, which our local security policy prevents. Could you email the doc
directly to me?

Thanks,

tonyB.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday 9/8/2003 2:23:24 PM
Subject: Re: Large number of QMgrs on a Solaris box...

>Antony,
>
>Here is some info that I put on the BMC support web site at
>http://service.bmc.com/bmc_mq/kb/view_article/0,,4960%2B4977%2B4990%2B4991%
2
>B10423,00.html
>
>Overview
>
>FDCs are found in /var/mqm/errors.  Also the error logs are there.
>AMQERR01.LOG is the current error log.  The FDC filenames look like this:
>AMQ10450.0.FDC.  Where 10450 is the pid of the process throwing the FDC.
>This resolution describes when tuning is needed due to a lack of semaphore
>undo structures.  The FDCs will have these characteristics:
>
>Probe Id: XY324192
>Probe Description :- AMQ6119: An internal MQSeries error has occurred ('22
>| - Invalid argument' from semop.)
>
>This problem is seen most frequently with Solaris.  It is not common with
>HP-UX and I have never seen the problem with AIX.
>
>Solution
>
>Recommendation:
>1. For Solaris, increase the value of SEMUME and SEMMNU in /etc/system and
>boot.
>
>2. Make sure you do not delete (ipcrm) MQSeries semaphores while MQSeries
is
>running. This is not likely to be the problem but I have seen it.
>======
>DETAILS:
>The following are details on how to come to the conclusion above.
>At a Solaris computer type:
>
>man semop
>
>And see:
>
>     EINVAL    The semid argument is not a valid semaphore  iden-
>               tifier, or the number of individual semaphores for
>               which the  calling  process  requests  a  SEM_UNDO
>               would exceed the limit.
>
>The EINVAL is E = error and INVAL = INVALID.
>
>So the FDC is saying that the semop call returned EINVAL.  Looks like the
>number of SEM_UNDOs being requested is too large for the current kernel.
>Looks like you need to increase the number of SEM_UNDOs allowed.
>
>Looking at
>http://www.sun.com/sun-on-net/itworld/UIR960101perf.html we see that the
>kernel parm to increase is semsys:seminfo_semume.  The kernel parms can be
>increased by changing /etc/system and then booting. How much should you
>increase it?  I usually double it until I get to 4096 and then increase by
>smaller amounts.
>
>In the past I have seen increasing increasing just SEMUME helped with the
>EINVAL problem.  But, to be safe you may wish to increase both SEMUME and
>SEMMNU.
>
>I usually double the values to start with.  It is difficult to come up with
>exact recommendations.  However, here is some info that will help. See
>http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ts/mqseries/txppacs/supportpacs/mp00.pdf
>Page 60 of 71.  Here is the quote:
>"SEMMNU ,  semaphore undo's was increased from 256 to 2048. Without this
>only approx 90 clients could be MQCONNected."
>So based on that I would say that in addition to SEMUME (number of
semaphore
>undos per process), also we have SEMNU (total number of undos in the
>system).  It sounds like SEMMNU=256 handles approximately 90 MQCONNs.  You
>could extrapolate from there.
>
>ANOTHER POSSIBILITY: Notice that the error explanation for EINVAL includes
>two possibilities.  This article describes how to fix one possible problem.
>The other possibility is that the semaphore identifier being used by
>MQSeries is invalid.  This probably means that something or someone has
>deleted the semaphore.  Please examine for this, are there any jobs that
use
>ipcrm to delete, to clean up, semaphores?  It is ok to delete semaphores
>that are not MQSeries semaphores or to cleanup MQSeries semaphores while
>MQSeries is down.  But if you delete (ipcrm) semaphores while MQSeries is
>running this error will occur.
>
>Dan Egner
>IBM WebSphere MQ V5.3 System Administration Certified
>Product Support
>BMC Software, Inc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Antony Boggis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 2:02 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Large number of QMgrs on a Solaris box...
>
>
>I am in the midst of troubleshooting an issue where I am getting huge
>numbers of FDC files generated on one of our development Solaris machines.
>Some of these FDC files are are REALLY large too.
>
>The machine in question is an 8 CPU box with 32GB RAM.
>
>There are currently 70+ queue managers *DEFINED* on the box, many in a
>"local" cluster (ie the CLUSTER of queue managers is all on the same box -
>this is a DEVELOPMENT machine... in the real world the cluster members
would
>be on different physical machines).
>
>At the moment I am showing 27 active queue managers.
>
>The kernel parameters have been updated to the followiung values:
>
>set shmsys:shminfo_shmmax = 4294967295
>set shmsys:shminfo_shmseg = 2048
>set shmsys:shminfo_shmmni = 2048
>set semsys:seminfo_semaem = 16384
>set semsys:seminfo_semmni = 1024
>set semsys:seminfo_semmap = 1026
>set semsys:seminfo_semmns = 16384
>set semsys:seminfo_semmsl = 10000
>set semsys:seminfo_semopm = 100
>set semsys:seminfo_semmnu = 2048
>set semsys:seminfo_semume = 256
>set msgsys:msginfo_msgmap = 1026
>set msgsys:msginfo_msgmax = 4096
>
>In addition to the FDC files in /var/mqm/errors, the AMQERROR0x files are
>also filled with:
>
>AMQ6119: An internal MQSeries error has occurred ('22 - Invalid argument'
>from semop.)
>
>If anyone can shed some more light on the problem, I'd apreciate it. I am
in
>the process of reviewing the solaris kernel params to see if that (likely)
>is the root of the problem.
>
>Regards,
>
>tonyB.
>
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