Peter,

Are you using WAS embedded messaging? Or WMQ with WAS as the App Server? Or
WMQ with another App Server?

Regards,

Christopher Frank
Certified I/T Specialist - WebSphere Software
IBM Certified Solutions Expert - Websphere MQ & MQ Integrator
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Subject:    Message Driven Beans and FAIL_IF_QUIESCING



How to Message Driven Beans (MDBs) and the FAIL_IF_QUIESCING option relate?

The reason I ask is that I was helping an application run through some
testing. One of the things I did was bring down the Queue Manager (endmqm
-i
QUEUEMANAGER). The QM came down with no problems.

But when I tried to start the QM, it wouldn't. It kept failing:

$ strmqm QUEUEMANAGER

AMQ8041: The queue manager cannot be restarted or deleted because
processes,

that were previously connected, are still running.

Process 26223 is still running.

Process 20837 is still running.

AMQ7018: The queue manager operation cannot be completed.

Turns out these 2 processes were the MDBs! The QM would not come up until
we
killed the MDBs. Why? Is there anyway to configure the MDBs so that they
end
when the QM comes down? The app people are telling me there is no way to
specify this option on the MDB.


Solaris 8
MQ 5.3 CSD04


Peter Potkay
MQSeries Specialist
The Hartford Financial Services
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IBM MQSeries Certified




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