Hi Peter,

>>>Do MDBs not allow this? Will I have to insure that all MDBs are
>>>ended before I bring down the QM, or if the QM ends before the MDBs
>>>come down, then I have to kill them before trying to bring up the QM?

Hmmm. I don't know whether there is anything in the MDB spec that precludes
this working. There is no explicit support for it, though, just like there
is no explicit support for FAIL_IF_QUIESCING in the JMS spec, it's
something unique to WMQ implementation. If I had to guess I would say that
it's something the MDB container would have to "honor" - perhaps WL does
not? Is there a way to define "custom properties" associated with the MDB,
as there is in WAS?

Or perhaps WL is using an older version of the WMQ JMS libraries that does
not support the FAIL_IF_QUIESCING property? You should be certain that the
WMQ V5.3 JMS libraries are being used, and are at least at the CSD03 level,
because I know there were some fixes to the FAIL_IF_QUIESCING code in
CSD03.

You could run a trace and see if the FAIL_IF_QUIESCING property is being
set when the MDB starts. I'm afraid that's about all I can tell you, as I
know nothing about WLs MDB implementation. Sorry not to be of more help.

Regards,

Christopher Frank
Certified I/T Specialist - WebSphere Software
IBM Certified Solutions Expert - Websphere MQ & MQ Integrator
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