OH CRAP I've dated myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH Well I'll just hop in the GENERAL and scoot over to Petticote Junction to hide in the water tower with the girls!!!!!!!!
bobbee
From: earMERC Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Do go looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:45:39 -0500
Watch yourself there! HuggyBear is a personal friend of mine. A couple of detectives might come looking for you soon.
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Ernest Roberts IT - Sr Sys Prog MBUSA, LLC
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Robert Broderick <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OTMAIL.COM> cc: Sent by: MQSeries Subject: Re: Do go looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .AC.AT>
01/09/2004 08:12 AM Please respond to MQSeries List
AAAHHHHH!!! But then the IBM addiction would subside. Not a good thing for a pusher!! Remember the guy "Huggy Bear" from that show long ago. I believe he now works for IBM as their Marketing Management Director. (He still has the outlandish outfits on too00. Upsets prople at the board meetings!!!). And you wonder where all this good marketing comes from!!
Going back to something less serious. FDC can be like rabbits. BUT the will be caused by some problem somewhere. I don't think the code has a random FDC generator built in. "FULL TIME JOB" maybe and maybe not. I just think it is better to err on the side of caution. I also don't think you could possibly track and debug all the FDC but it is nice to be warned that they are occuring. ESP when you start getting repeated EMAILs righ after you did an upgrade or installed some idiots application.
bobbee
>From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Do go looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:15:25 -0500 > >I second the motion on the new manual thing. Help me help myself, and I >don't have to clog up the Passport Advantage line with yet another phone >call > >Bill Anderson >Senior Systems Analyst >SITA Atlanta, GA >770-303-3503 (office) >404-915-3190 (cell) >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.mconnect.aero/ > > > > "Potkay, Peter M > (PLC, IT)" To: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: > RTFORD.COM> Subject: Re: Do go >looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? > Sent by: MQSeries > List > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > AC.AT> > > > 01/08/2004 02:55 PM > Please respond to > MQSeries List > > > > > > >You know, I was thinking to myself looking at these FDCs "Holy cr*p, this >whole place is about to fall apart right before my eyes!!!". But I went and >actually looked at all my prod QMs. About 40% have no FDCs. The other 40% >have some, but only at the rate of maybe 1 or 2 every 3 months. A couple >here and there were weird (like 30 FDCs in a minute a year ago and nothing >since). > >The queue managers that are running on Windows 2000 machines under control >of MSCS are loaded with FDCs. Like 10 or 20 a month. > >I am going to focus on those, even though "nothing" is wrong. Maybe IBM >will >be able to help me flip a switch somewhere which would cause 90% of those >to >go away. I just hesitate to do it because nothing seems wrong, and this >could turn into a full time job. Oh well, look out bullet, cuz I'm about to >bite ya! > > >If I can get it to the point where we only see 1 or 2 FDCs a month, I think >an email with the servername in question when an FDC is thrown is a good >idea. A great idea would be the ability to actually understand FDCs. A new >manual perhaps? Please? :) > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:03 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Do go looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? > > >I don't know. I have had sites where I showed up the first day and the file >systems were pretty full because of the FDC issues. But as things got under >control and the environment stabilized the issue of FDC's showing up became >became lees of an issue if non-existent. I don't recall being iat a site >where the FDC continued to run "out of hand" after making the environment >"well". > > bobbee > > > >From: Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Do go looking for FDCs when "nothing" is wrong? > >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:20:17 -0500 > > > >I just had to ring in on this one. The thing is, the queue manager seems >to > >have sort of a "hair trigger" in regard to what sort of problems cause it > >to write an FDC file. I find them often, and have no way of quickly > >determining why it (more commonly they) are there. If I got serious about > >hunting them down every time, I could make a career out of It. It doesn't > >help any that little or no documentation exists on how to effectively > >troubleshoot using one. On more than one occasion I have opened a ticket > >with IBM to help me solve a problem where FDC files were produced, and >had > >a 2nd level support person tell me to send them, but they don't often > >contain much useful data. > > > >I do think it is wise to automate handling them. I need to find the time >to > >write a script that not only finds them but potentially parses them and > >write things like the date / time stamp, program name, and probe > >description (just to name a few) to a log file that could be imported >into > >a spread sheet. Then you could look for trends. If something specific > >continues to occur over and over, that would be justification to launch a > >science project to determine why, and fix it. > > > >I would love to know enough about FDC files to write a program, or Perl > >script that could parse hundreds of them and write a report based on some > >key data. But that's not likely to wind up on my project plan list any >time > >soon! > > > > > >Cheers > > > >Bill Anderson > >Senior Systems Analyst > >SITA Atlanta, GA > >770-303-3503 (office) > >404-915-3190 (cell) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.mconnect.aero/ > > > >Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in > >the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com > >Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of slow downloads? 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