We use QPASA to save any messages we want to keep during an uninstall - install. Of course, one of my first tasks in upgrading is to go through all the queues a couple of days in advance and clean stuff up. I don't even ask about non persistent messages, I just ignore then the day of the upgrade and let them go away. Persistent ones I contact the application area on to see if they are still valid.
-----Original Message----- From: Kerry Swemmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 5:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 -- Removal of MA88 Howzit T.Rob, As a matter of interest, how do you retain messages in a queue if you delete the folders during an uninstall/install? Cheers, Kerry Swemmer T-Systems South Africa (Pty) Ltd Database Administrator Computing and Desktop Services Address: DaimlerChrysler, 7 Settlers Way, East London, South Africa Postal Address: PO Box 671, East London, 5200 Phone: +27 (43) 706 2549 Fax: +27 (43) 706 2085 Mobile: +27 (83) 657 4151 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: www.t-systems.co.za -----Original Message----- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wyatt, T. Rob Sent: 19 February 2004 19:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 -- Removal of MA88 Rao, Your questions only apply if you are attempting an upgrade as opposed to a complete uninstall/reinstall. Due to bad experiences we had early on in our shop we never do upgrades. Our approach is to back up the objects and authorities, then completely uninstall MQ and delete the folders where it lived, then install MQ from scratch and reapply the objects and authorities. We will apply a CSD over an existing installation but any major version upgrade we always go through the uninstall/reinstall method. This way we never have to wonder whether a problem is really an MQ problem or if it is some leftover configuration from the old install. The extra steps involved (backing up the object defs and auths, then uninstalling and deleting the QMgr) generally take much less time than fixing any problems that arise from botching an upgrade by, for instance, leaving MA88 installed. I would recommend sidestepping the whole issue and just commit to performing a complete uninstall and delete of MQ. And on Windows platforms, that includes rebooting between the uninstall and reinstall to cache the changes to the registry. And in your defense, to answer some of the replies you got referring to Windows docs for this product, the MA88 download page now has this to say about Windows and other platforms: IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT It should be noted that the ability to download this SupportPac from this site for the following platforms: » AIX » HP-UX » OS/390 » Linux for iSeries » Linux for zSeries » Sun Solaris » Windows has been withdrawn, and the end of service date will be 31 December 2003 (except for iSeries and OS/390 for which it is 30 April 2004). For these platforms, the function remains available shipped with the WebSphere MQ V5.3 product. For the remaining platforms » HP Tru64 » HP OVMS Alpha » HP NSK the end of service date for this SupportPac is 30 April 2005. -- T.Rob -----Original Message----- From: Adiraju, Rao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 -- Removal of MA88 Jan Luckily we don't have this issue, but I am curios to know more about it: 1) First of all MA88 support pack description says it is applicable only to HP boxes and doesn't say anything about NT / WINDOWS. 2) the original question and my reply was related to migration tasks for WINDOWS platform. Please excuse me, if the doco is incorrect and out there people are using this support pack on WINDOWS platforms. 3) I have had a quick look at the manual that you mentioned, it simply states that these are now part of V5.3. But it doesn't mention about "how to uninstall" the support pack. 4) uninstall of support pack - does it mean deleting the folders where the exe resides and/or removing it through control panel - ADD/REMOVE programs utility. Cheers Rao Adiraju WebSphere MQ Specialist The National Bank of NZ Ltd. Wellington - New Zealand Tel: +64-4-494 4299 Fax: +64-4-802 8509 Mbl: +64-211-216-116 -----Original Message----- From: Hanchak, Jan M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 February 2004 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 -- Removal of MA88 I'm currently working with Sun Solaris, HPUX, and NT platforms that utilize MQ java library and jar files. For a clean install, the MA88 support pack was removed after the MQSeries v5.2 application was removed. If you look at the Quick Beginnings guide, under "What's New ..." and in Chapter 1, Planning to Install, you should find your answer. Regards, Jan Janette M. Hanchak Lead Systems Software Analyst Eaton Electrical Information Technology Office: 412-893-3579 Cell: 412-716-3168 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eaton Website: www.EatonElectrical.com <http://www.EatonElectrical.com> -----Original Message----- From: Joe H. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 -- Removal of MA88 Do you know if the removal of MA88 is required on OS/400? Any thoughts on how to completly remove MA88 on an iSeries machine? Joan Hughes Brown Shoe / Famous Footwear Technical Specialist 608-827-3523 "Hanchak, Jan M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] N.COM> cc: Sent by: MQSeries Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT> 02/18/2004 03:10 PM Please respond to MQSeries List If I may add one more item ... If you are utilizing the support pack MA88 - MQ java library and jar files, this must be removed as well. WebSphere MQ v5.3 installation includes the MQ java library and jar files should your application need to utilize them. Regards, Jan Janette M. Hanchak Lead Systems Software Analyst Eaton Electrical Information Technology Office: 412-893-3579 Cell: 412-716-3168 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eaton Website: www.EatonElectrical.com <http://www.EatonElectrical.com> -----Original Message----- From: Adiraju, Rao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ 5.2.1 to 5.3 Recently we went through this exercise and some more servers are in process: The steps we have adopted are: 1) Take a backup of data & log folders. 2) Uninstall V5.2.1 (which will still retain your data and log folders) 3) Reboot the box (preferable) 4) Install V5.3 5) Install latest CSD - as of today it is CSD05 6) take a media image (RCDMQIMG) 7) let applications give a bash at it and get a sign-off. 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