Ben, Monitoring a location that you are directly connected to (either locally or via a client) is simple since the application need only be able to issue an API call. When you're going to a remote Queue Manager *via* another then you actually need to send a message and have it returned. So, yes, going via another queue manager is more complicated.
I've just tried it though and it still seems to work fine so I recommend you read the manual and use loopback monitoring. ie. define a remote queue on your remote QM that 'points' back to the QM your MO71 is actually connected to. Cheers, P. Paul G Clarke WebSphere MQ Development IBM Hursley |---------+----------------------------> | | "Benjamin F. | | | Zhou" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | USA.COM> | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | N.AC.AT> | | | | | | | | | 12/03/2004 16:15 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List | |---------+----------------------------> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: MO71 question | | | | | >-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi Paul, I still try to use viaQM because it may take weeks before it can be installed on the MF. Just to compare, I added another location whose qmgr is on the same NT machine. I set it up to be viaQM-monitored. After I double-click the QM, all the query results are shown on the screen about this QM, its icon turns green, but just for a short two seconds, it will turn red with 'X' right away. What does this mean? Is there more to configure for viaQM monitored QM? thanks, Ben Paul Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .IBM.COM> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: MO71 question MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] en.AC.AT> 03/11/2004 01:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Ben, If you have the CAF (Client Access Facility) then it begs the question as to why you're routing your requests to MVS via an AIX Queue manager. Wouldn't you be better off defining your MO71 MVS location as a client connection. If you did you would then be able to browse the messages on the dead letter queue using MO71. Of course, both solutions require that you either have your userid registered with your MVS userid or you change the userid of the messages flowing to MVS to something it will accept. Cheers, P. Paul G Clarke WebSphere MQ Development IBM Hursley |---------+----------------------------> | | "Benjamin F. | | | Zhou" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | USA.COM> | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | N.AC.AT> | | | | | | | | | 11/03/2004 13:55 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List | |---------+----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: MO71 question | | | | | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Hi Paul, Many thanks for the hint. I could eventually locate the msg in the deadQ on mainframe. However, since I can't read msg there as I can on other platforms, I have to guess what's there. It seems I do have to have CAF to read the msg. (I'm no MF literate) I also tried to use Loop-back monitoring, where I make the command queue on the mainframe a remote queue pointing back to viaQM's reply Queue. Now I see both channels in running status. Just the MO71 location for the MF qmgr is still not active. I anticipate the viaQM simply took over the msg before the MF entry gets a chance to get it. Do you see it that way? best regards, Ben Paul Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .IBM.COM> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: MO71 question MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] en.AC.AT> 03/10/2004 05:14 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Ben, Nick has described it perfectly. The whole point of the 'via' location is that messages are routed to/from your target Queue Manager *via* this other location. As far as where did your message go ? Well, check the normal places. If you're certain the message got to the mainframe then it should have been processed by the command server. The most likely thing is that the command server didn't like your userid (or something) and will have dumped the request to the dead letter queue. If all else fails then trace is always an option. With tracing switched on you should be able to follow the path of any message and see exactly where it goes. However normally this shouldn't be necessary. Check all your DLQs, command queues and transmission queues and you'll probably find your message. Cheers, P. Paul G Clarke WebSphere MQ Development IBM Hursley Nick Dilauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: Sent by: MQSeries Subject: Re: MO71 question List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] N.AC.AT> 09/03/2004 21:46 Please respond to MQSeries List Ben, I'm pretty sure it means that you are using the reply to queue you specified when you set up the location for the "via QM". Since that qmgr has connections to the other qmgr the replies are routed back to the "via QM". Even though it doesn't say so, you don't need any of the client info for the other qmgr. Nick -----Original Message----- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin F. Zhou Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MO71 question Hi MO71 veterans, 1. what does it mean that "replyQ is not needed when using via QM". Where does the reply go to? to SYSTEM.DEFAULT.MODEL.QUEUE? Specifically, I'm setting up MO71 to monitor a mainframe QM (without CAF, I'm now convinced it's not needed) , via a QM on AIX. After I defined qmgr-alias on the AIX box to point to the MF QM, I see the request got sent to the mainframe, but no reply ever gets back. Apparently the MF QM didn't even try to send a reply back since the XmitQ is empty and sender channel to AIX never starts. I also setup qmgr alias on MF pointing to QM on AIX. The field mvs has been checked. 2. Has anyone ever used the "Command OK" field to run a batch program or whatever, on a win2k or XP machine? Paul, maybe you can pin-point what I'm missing right away. thanks a lot. 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