Some of the Java client applications I have seen can optionally leave the
MQMD.userid blank.  On zOS & OS/390, the checking of one or more Userids is
based on the RESLEVEL settings for the Chinit address space when going in
remotely.  I have not checked this on distributed side yet to see the
effects of passing a blank Userid. I was hoping someone else had already
done this, so we could all know.


-----Original Message-----
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Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:00 PM
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If you put blank in MD.userid, the qmgr fills it in on the MQ put.  If
somehow, it became blank in transit (how?), I think the MCA would have
difficulty accepting the message and would pop it to the DLQ.

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What happens if the Userid is blank in the MQMD?  Does it inherit the Userid
of the MCA?


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I don't believe there is a way to get around the COD being generated under
the ID in the MQMD.  You need to authorise all those userids, or implement
some scheme (exits, other software products) to modify the userid field
before it hits the queue. Another alternative would be to use PAN report
instead of COD, and get your application to generate the acknowledgement
(you could even get your application to label its PAN as a COD if you've got
no purists breathing down your neck), and this would be done under the
authority of the user running the getting application.

Regards
Darren
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Peter,

that's what I do NOT want to do. The reason for that is, that the sending
side has more than one user, which may be used in the MQMD. I do not now,
how many, and if they will change in the future. I want not to be forced to
administrate users on my side in order to enable COD reports. Using COA may
be an option, but I fear, that the sending side will insist upon using COD.

Regards
Hubert


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Peter M (ISD, IT)
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The solution is you have to define the userID (the one in the MQMD) on the
server where the QM that is generating the COD report is running. Or just
get by with COA reports.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:57 AM
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Dave,

thanks for your answer (and also Darren). My MQB runs on Solaris, but the
put authority of the receiver MCA is set to DEF. So the UserIdentifier in
the message is not checked, when the MCA puts the message to the queue.

I now understand my problem, but is there a solution? I found some Put
Message Options (e. g. MQPMO_ALTERNATE_USER_AUTHORITY,
MQPMO_PASS_IDENTITY_CONTEXT). May I use one of these options, to write the
report option using another user id than this one, in the message
descriptor?

I was told, that unknown users are mapped to user and group "nobody". To
enable this user for the queue shuld solve the problem (described in the
System Administration Guide). I tried it, but this did not work.

Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance.
Hubert


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Partridge
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 10:03
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When the report is generated, the ReplyToQ queue is opened and the report
message put using the authority of the UserIdentifier in the MQMD of the
message causing the report, except in the following cases:

Exception reports generated by a receiving MCA are put with whatever
authority the MCA used when it tried to put the message causing the report.
The PutAuthority channel attribute determines the user identifier used.

COA reports generated by the queue manager are put with whatever authority
was used when the message causing the report was put on the queue manager
generating the report. For example, if the message was put by a receiving
MCA using the MCA's user identifier, the queue manager puts the COA report
using the MCA's user identifier.

Applications generating reports should normally use the same authority as
they would have used to generate a reply; this should normally be the
authority of the user identifier in the original message.

So, if this is a remote QM to the originator, then this should be being PUT
with the authority of the MCA the originally put it onto the input Q.
Whether this authority is enough to write to the TQ to go back depends on
the platform and what user was running the MCA.   For distributed
platforms
the user running the MCA will almost always be mqm or equivalent so it
should work, but for the 390 system, the authority is defined by the RACF
permissions and the value of the setting of PUTAUT on the receiver channel.
This is discussed in chapter 15 and 17 of the z/OS System Setup Guide.

So my guess is that the receiving system is 390 and that you are running
your receiver channels with ALTMCA and that the CHIN is writing OK to the
output Q, but when the getter gets the message the only authority left is
the ALT part of ALTMCA.  Perhaps someone with more experience of 390 access
control for MQ can comment it this is a 390 system.

Dave
-----Original Message-----
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Hubert
Sent: 22 September 2004 08:14
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Subject: Creating report messages ends with reason 2035


MQ-Guys,

I have the following situation:

1. An application "APP1" on qmgr "MQ1", running as a user "mqusr1", creates
a message and sends it to a qmgr "MQ2". "APP1" sets the report options to
"MQRO_COD" + "MQRO_EXCEPTION" + "MQRO_PASS_MSG_ID" + "MQRO_PASS_CORREL_ID"
(I think, relevant in my case is only "MQRO_COD" ).

2. Application "APP2" on qmgr "MQ2", running as a user "mqusr2",  reads the
message successfully. But when "APP2" tries to put the report message, it
fails with the reason code 2035 and the message is put to the local DLQ.

3. The user "mqusr1" does not exist on system 2, but the MD contains the
user "mqusr1" in the field "UserIdentifier".

4. When I create the user "mqusr1" on system 2 with appropriate permissions,
the report message is delivered successfully.

Now the question: How can I enable the user "mqusr1" to write to a queue on
system 2 without creating this account. Nevertheless the field
"UserIdentifier" has to contain this user, so that the system 1accepts the
message?

In fact, it is not only one user on system 1, which may send a message and I
do not want at all create a dozen or more users, just to enable the report
messages.

Thanks in advance.

Mit freundlichen Gr|_en / With kind regards
Hubert Kleinmanns (N-Tuition Business Solutions AG)
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