Another thing you could do is install MA0W (API Trace) (very easy on 
distributed) and you will get a pretty file telling you everything that is 
being done on the box or you can limit it down to a specific piont of 
interaction or just get a summary. This TOOL was designed EXACTLY for the 
situation you are in now. Allegators!!!!
 
                                         bobbee



> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:48:19 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> Help Needed> To: [email protected]> > Hello Ken,> > I 
> seriously doubt you are 'losing messages'. What is mostly likely happening is 
> that during the first step of processing by BizTalk, it is finding some thing 
> that it does not know or like and error-ing out / abending without writing 
> anything to your DB or log files.> > > > Is there any way to turn on any MQ 
> logging so we can see that the message> > is actually being picked off the 
> queue?> > There are commercial 'Message Tracking' products that can help or 
> you can try the unsupported 'mirrorq'.> > See here for 'Message Tracking' 
> products:> http://www.capitalware.biz/mq_tools_comm.html#mqtrk> > Or here for 
> 'mirrorq'> http://www.capitalware.biz/mq_code_c.html#exitcode> > > The queues 
> are setup as persistent. Is there anyway to interpret what is> > in the 
> log/active folder to see what is going on?> > Log replay see here for 
> commercial products:> http://www.capitalware.biz/mq_tools_comm.html#mqlog> > 
> > > Can the MQ trace facility be used to help us?> > Not really.> > > > In 
> parallel, the developers are looking at the code to see if there is a> > 
> flaw. > > I'm positive that is where the bugs are but developers get very 
> protective of their code, so you may here something like: 'we had to update 
> our code to handle MQ losing messages'. Translation: They found the bug and 
> fixed it but they don't want to admit it. :)> > > > Regards,> Roger Lacroix> 
> Capitalware Inc.> http://www.capitalware.biz> > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 11:34:20 
> -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > Let me describe our dilema and if anyone 
> has any suggestions on how we can> > troubleshoot this, it would be greatly 
> appreciated.> > > > We have a mainframe application that receives messages 
> from a server based> > application on a queue. The mainframe processes the 
> message and puts a> > response on a queue (it gets this from the reply to 
> queue/manager from the> > initial message). The application that reads the 
> response is a biztalk> > application and does a mqget every second to see if 
> messages are waiting> > (I> > know thats alot of overhead, but until we can 
> re-architect it I am stuck> > with it).> > > > The problem is that we are 
> intermittently losing messages. The mainframe> > confirms that they are 
> putting the response on the queue, and the biztalk> > application does not 
> appear to be seeing it. We put a network sniffer and> > we actually do see 
> the mq message coming over the network. We compared> > that message to one 
> that was properly received and nothing jumps out at> > us.> > In a normal 
> situation, as soon as a message is picked off the queue it> > writes to a SQL 
> database with tracking info. The "lost" transactions are> > not appearing on 
> the database.> > > > > > Now the questions:> > > > Is there any way to turn 
> on any MQ logging so we can see that the message> > is actually being picked 
> off the queue?> > The queues are setup as persistent. Is there anyway to 
> interpret what is> > in the log/active folder to see what is going on?> > Can 
> the MQ trace facility be used to help us?> > Any other ideas would be greatly 
> appreciated.> > > > In parallel, the developers are looking at the code to 
> see if there is a> > flaw. (maybe 2 messages arriving at the same time - it 
> processes 1 and> > drops the next?).> > > > > > To unsubscribe, write to 
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