Hi Patrick,

On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Patrick Hunt wrote:

>> 
>> Yeah that's actually what I'm proposing. What I'm saying is this. Suppose we 
>> have a June 2011 board report due:
>> 
>> 1. You create the June 2011 board report on Confluence, rather than the 
>> Incubator wiki
>> 2. Eric updates the Confluence board report version
>> 3. Chris updates the Confluence board report version
>> 4. Patrick updates one last time, then copies over to the Incubator wiki 
>> board report area
>> 5. Joe blow comes 2 months later, and wants to see the revisions of the 
>> MRUnit board report from June 2011
>>   a. Joe blow scratches his head when there is only 1 revision in the 
>> Incubator wiki
>>   b. Joe blow realizes that there is another wiki he has to search (by 
>> finding this conversation in the mailing archives on Google :-) ).
>> 
>> That was the use case I was talking about.
>> 
> 
> I totally get this, but I don't see that the incubator is supporting
> the model you are suggesting, that's all I'm saying. My goal was to
> get MRUNIT rolling with limited muss/fuss, if you want to approach the
> incubator and suggest this model, and everyone in mrunit is fine with
> moving to that model (I am) then I don't see why we wouldn't move to
> that and deprecate having our own pages.

Hm -- well it's not as cut and dry as that.

There's nothing to propose to the Incubator. First off, on all Incubator 
projects I've been involved with (to date I think around 7) we've definitely 
had 2 wikis. I'm not suggesting something besides that. What I'm suggesting is 
that we actively develop Incubator podling reports on the Incubator wiki 
instead of flush the final report there from our own wiki (which defeats the 
purpose of the Incubator wiki report area). If reports are just to be flushed 
(which in the end they are, to the board, as reported by the IPMC chair), then 
why even have a report wiki? The Incubator could simply accept text files from 
all of the podlings?

Anyhoo, the model has been working fine in MRUNIT, because my blathering, and I 
was just trying to point out IMO, I think it's confusing from a Wiki Version 
Control Perspective to actively develop the Incubator reports on the MRUNIT 
wiki and then magically flush them onto the Incubator podling report portion of 
its wiki. That's all I was saying. 

Cheers,
Chris

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