Tobias Platen wrote
> On 03/22/2016 08:18 PM, David Cuny wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to propose that. I just wanted to note that a
>> fallback
>> that allowed phonetic symbols would be necessary.
>>
>> As to the rest, my (unofficial) thought is that it currently takes quite
>> a
>> bit of manual intervention to get English working well with the UTAU
>> toolchain, whether it uses VCV or CVVC. And each approach requires a
>> different set of tools to connect the samples together. It seems to me
>> that
>> there's quite a bit of risk of not coming out with something usable at
>> the
>> end.
>>
>> -- David

I understand and share your concerns. English is a real problem, starting
from phonetics to the scarceness of samples. I think the same about the
necessity to allow phonetics, though we will need opinions on whether this
is even an acceptable possibility in MuseScore. 


Tobias Platen wrote
> For European languages eSpeak is the best one, but that will require 
> much more work. eSpeak can convert text to phonetic symbols for many 
> languages.

How many eSpeak phonemes are there approximatively in English? Although I
have thought about the possibility to make program to try and convert every
phoneme to its CVVC equivalent, I get the feeling that this is a bad idea.
There is simply no real equivalent, and users who get almost natural results
out of it have good tricks to do so (play with either a vowel or a consonant
sounds according to the song's speed, to the rhythm, to the consonants that
are pronounced near each other. To make it the closest to how a human would
say it. The most natural sound isn't the most obvious, and my level in
English is insufficient to do such a thing). Even if one would go for doing
the most obvious algorithm (provided it is possible), how much time would it
need? 

I know that English support is quite a priority, as it is one of the most
used languages. But it seems too risky. Would a project where the English
support is an optional deliverable be worthy? I don't think it lacks
priority, but it seems much more feasible to implement it over something
already existent. 

Your inputs on a better approach that would make English more straight
forward are very much welcome! 



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