Hello Vasi.

Thanks for Allegro, I will jump into it.

So the goal is to create a new gui inferface (like for X11 and Win-gdi) for 
framebuffer ?
If so many methods should be set as "dummy" ?

That is a Big challenge that cannot be done by only one person...

😉

Fre;D
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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Save forms to bitmaps?

Look at how Allegro works in console unsig the frambuffer... Yeah, is about 
showing forms in the framebuffer without X11... Remember, what you see in X11 
is not the drawn form... is the already drawn bitmap :P

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 5:23 PM Fred vS 
<fi...@hotmail.com<mailto:fi...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Vasi.

Ha, ok, it is new jungle for me this framebuffer console concept.
I will study it.

Is it about run a graphic application just from terminal, after boot, without 
loading X11?
Nice if it is that but what about the forms if there is no window manager?

Fre;D

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Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Save forms to bitmaps?

Is about running graphical applications based on LCL and MSEgui outside 
X-Window, in framebuffer console...

MSEgui already uses a double-buffer mecanism in painting the final bitmap on 
X-Window and Windows... as far as I understand... So, I will not go on top 
level trying to get forms saving to a bitmap... the mechanism is already 
present at the base of the MSEgui... just change the destination...

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 2:25 AM Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk 
<mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net>>
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Hello Fred,

you wrote on Thu, 3 Aug 2023 18:38:56 +0000:

> There is a topic on Lazarus forum about save forms to bitmaps with MSEgui:
...
> https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui Unfortunately, at the moment,
> unlike LCL, MSEgui is not able to save forms to bitmaps, which is

You did bring this up before, and you might remember that I investigated
it a bit, finding that the designated functions aren't implemented.

> something very important for MSEgui. Much more important than it is for
> LCL.

Hm. I don't see much neccessity for that, especially as screen capture
programs exist in masses. Didn't you find some solution using such an
approach yourself?
...
> Is it possible to save forms to bitmaps?

Well, the last thing I could achieve without delving deeply into writing
additional drawing code was a program creating a bitmap of the, still
empty, form rectangle, filled with black color.

> Sure with a capture-screen and select a position it is possible but it
> seems they want something else.

Who are "they"? Are "they" important for msegui's persistance?
If so, it MIGHT be useful to tackle the chore...

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