Hi,

There are many research interests in being able to dynamically load
code in the MCU.

For example, the Contiki OS (dedicated to Wireless Sensor Networks)
proposes a solution to dynamically link and relocate native code (in
ELF format) in microcontrollers.

http://www.sics.se/%7Eadam/dunkels06runtime.pdf

One of the arguments of the author is that position independent code
is not supported by MSP compilers. But this article was written 4
years ago...

I think that dynamic loading of native code could be extremely
simplified using PIC.
If the on-board linker is simplified, it would leave more space in
RAM/ROM for the real application.

I have reported the bug (-fPIC silently won't work).
Should I also send a feature request ?

Fred

2010/10/19 JMGross <[email protected]>:
> ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
> Von: Peter Bigot
> Gesendet am: 19 Okt 2010 04:48:41
>
>> I doubt there's any explicit support for it.  Position independent code is
>> mostly irrelevant in embedded systems where there won't be any dynamic
>> loading.  There are applications where one might replace code with overlays,
>> but those can be generally be handled with fixed addresses.  I believe
>> binutils has support for this, though I haven't used it myself.
>
> Well, there IS an application where PIC is required (even if it can be solved 
> using non-PIC code as well):
> If you need to place functions in RAM, but don't want to place them there 
> permanently (by putting them into the data segment and hoping they will be 
> there untouched ever after PUC).
> A prominent example is a flashing function, which is copied from flash to ram 
> when needed.
>
> For those functions, however, I'd prefer the use of (inline) assembly, which 
> can be made either position-independent or explicitely written for the 
> intended destination.
>
> There is another possible usage for PIC: if you want to dynamically load code 
> from a library stored in external flash. Doing so using overlay mechanisms is 
> far more complex (if it is a collection of more or less complex
> and indepentent functions) than using PIC.
> My own projects, however, don't have grown so much that they won't fit into 
> existing flash anymore, so I never needed this so far.
>
> JMGross
>
>
>
> 2010/10/18 Fr=E9d=E9ric Sureau <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does MSPGCC support a way to produce position independent code ?
>>
>> The assembly generated using "-fPIC" argument seems to still be
>> position dependent.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>
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