Then again it is within WinPE that the issue occurs so IP Helpers prob have 
nothing to do with it.

My OSD builds revert back to normal speed once the hardware boots into the OS 
itself and starts to download applications. My Office 2010 package downloads at 
the expected speed, I'm only eyeballing this but I can tell. You sort of get 
used to the progress bar moving more quickly than at the Apply OS WIM step lol 
:)

So the issue is def only affecting downloading within the Wine PE 5.0 portion 
of the TS.

Cheers
Damon

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Robert Marshall
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2013 9:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

Then it is not a Hypervisor causing this :( Shucks!

Another additional test could be to see how the OS build performs once it exits 
the WINPE phase, and gets into a full blown OS. Try to get it to download some 
big applications or even a dummy package containing GB's of content (so a time 
check can be performed) before the TS completes, and see if during the Full OS 
+ ConfigMgr Client phase you are still seeing the delay. If it is purely a 
WINPE issue then we should see a difference. From what others have said on that 
thread it doesn't look to be a server-side issue, so we should see it flap 
between bad performance and good performance inside\outside of WINPE.

Damon thanks for dumping your configuration and steps, that kind of info really 
helps. Have you had any patches dropped on there, non-standard out of the norm 
patches? Have there been any changes to the OS deep down, registry, WMI, 
anything done to it? Any Change\Control logged for your box, indicating what's 
been done to it over its life time in terms of exotic change?

That thread link, can you guys drop some of the comments you've made here into 
the thread? Expanding out the "environment" information in the thread will help 
CSS who will be looking for additional information.

What an awesome list this is ...

Robert

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: 28 October 2013 09:59
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

My environment is running on physical hardware - no virtualization across any 
of the components.....sorry should have mentioned that.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2013 8:48 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

it seems that others that are 
seeing<http://www.windows-noob.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9312-slow-image-deployment-download-since-sccm-2012-r2-upgrade/#entry35196>
 this have Vmware back end servers, could this be part of the problem (only 
reason I'm saying this is I havn't seen the issue and i'm using hyperV only) ?

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Johns, Damon (DoJ) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Robert,

My configuration prior to the upgrade was Config Mgr 2012 SP1 with MDT 2012 
Update 1 integration enabled - Boot images were MDT WinPE 4.0 generated within 
the Config Mgr console with Dart v7. OS wim files etc downloading normally 
under WinPE. This was running on a fully patched Server 2008 R2 instance with 
local minimum SQL 2008 R2 level DB instance.

My PXE enabled DP's are also running Server 2008 R2. I had one instance of WDS 
failing on one of the DP's after the upgrade, removing WDS and reinstalling the 
role corrected the problem.

Upgrade path as follows:

Uninstalled ADK 8.0 via add remove programs
Installed ADK 8.1
Installed MDT 2013 which updated the MDT 2012 Update 1 instance
Installed Config Manager 2012 R2
Re-ran MDT Integration following successful upgrade to R2
Removed existing WinPE 4.0 boot images from distribution points and left them 
intact within the console
Created new MDT 2013 generated WinPE 5.0 boot images and replicated to DPs
Created new MDT 2013 files package in Config Mgr after upgrading my MDT 
deployment share
Adjusted Task Sequences etc, etc

I do have the Dart 7.0 components in my MDT WinPE 5.0 boot images however I 
don't believe this is related to the slow downloads within the PE environment. 
No other additional components have been added when creating the WinPE 5.0 boot 
images and I don't have any additional files or pre-exec hook's built into the 
boot images. Just standard MDT generated with the Dart 7.0 component.

OS wim files were captured using MDT 2012 Update 1 (for Win 7) and MDT 2013 
(for Win 8.1) with standard sysprep and capture TS. Source wim images built and 
captured using Hyper V on Windows 8 Enterprise.

Hope a fix is found soon!

Cheers
Damon


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Robert Marshall
Sent: Monday, 28 October 2013 7:59 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

>From the thread, it seems several have logged with CSS, should be quick now.

Is there anything "Exotic" about your configuration that stands right out? 
Anything done to these OS, there is a variable involved here, some are seeing 
the issue and others are not :(

Robert

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: 28 October 2013 01:02
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

They've had a hard time repro-ing this internally but are well aware of the 
many folks having the issue and are actively working to address it. Your best 
bet is to contact CSS and provide information about the environment and issue - 
the more info that they have, the better they will be able to find the root 
cause and provide the fix (whether that be code or configuration).

J

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:36 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] Slow download in 2012 R2 WinPe

For everyone's information on this email group:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/4c72ae27-198f-4751-b0d6-340a11b52bd4/insanely-slow-os-download-in-2012-r2-winpe?forum=configmanagerosd

I am also experiencing this issue. Hopefully a hotfix / work around is released 
by Microsoft shortly.

When you have 150+ replacements coming up - an extra 15-20 minutes to download 
the OS to the disk really blows out your replacement times. I've also noticed 
that its slow when downloading driver packages and the MDT 2013 Files package.

Regards,
Damon



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