Separate domain, no trust.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wallace Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 1:25 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com; mssms@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [mssms] Managing Servers in a DMZ Same domain? On 15 Nov 2014, at 05:15, Eric Morrison <eric.morri...@hotmail.com <mailto:eric.morri...@hotmail.com> > wrote: Something I’ve noticed is that clients from my internal network will attempt the DMZ MP, and vice versa… From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:09 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> ; mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] Managing Servers in a DMZ No. This already falls into the scenario of my last paragraph as the best way to do it at present. J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:02 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] Managing Servers in a DMZ Hey Jason, Interesting response… My current environment has a separate forest/domain that is untrusted for our DMZ. I have a site system server in that domain running SUP, MP, and DP to manage the DMZ systems. Are you recommending to use a secondary site server in this scenario instead? Thanks, Eric Morrison From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 3:57 PM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> ; mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: RE: [mssms] Managing Servers in a DMZ Not really. This value is only for MPs, not SUPs. Thus, you’re still stuck. The best you can do is put a secondary site in the DMZ which has a DP, SUP, and DP on the secondary site server and additionally put an MP from the primary into the DMZ as well. Then using the registry value, configure all of the DMZ clients to use the MP in the DMZ. You should at this point also use the registry value to configure all of your internal clients to use only the internal MP(s). Alternatively, you could use some other method to patch systems in the DMZ or maybe you could rely on the SUP failover to assign the proper SUP to the systems in the DMZ (but I wouldn’t really architect a solution counting on this behavior necessarily although it should and does work to my knowledge). I am not a fan of this registry value as its more or less and poor man’s hack. At this time, the best solution IMO is to use either HTTPS in the DMZ (although there are few quirks with this as well) or deploy an alternate domain/forest to the DMZ which will in turn dictate MP and SUP preference. J From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mattias Benninge Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:46 AM To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [mssms] Managing Servers in a DMZ I know that this have been discussed before but I want to raise the question if the possibilities have been change with CU3 for 2012 R2. With CU3 we get the option to limit a client to one or more specific(s) MP. This cumulative update introduces a new registry entry for clients. This entry will restrict which management point (MP) a client can communicate with. This can be useful in environments that have multiple MPs in different forests, and the clients can only communicate with a subset of them. Setting the registry value to only those MPs that can be reached by the client can improve overall efficiency. The new registry value is AllowedMPs, a REG_MULTI_SZ (multi-string) type that is under the following subkey: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CCM Does this mean that we now have a viable option for setting up an MP/DP/SUP in DMZ? If this is not an option what is the recommended/supported way for managing server/clients in a DMZ? What we want to do is basically patch and inventory servers (workgroup) in DMZ. We have PKI and certificates on all server already. Regards Mattias Benninge http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/matbe/