Hey Brian, I'll let you know when I go down there next what kind it is.  Of
course, it's not been tested that I know of!  

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dugas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:21 AM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: RE: Tape rotation best practices


What burn time do you have on your Fireproof Safe?
What type of Safe is it. We are considering purchasing a Fireproof Safe
but are uncertain of the best one to suit our needs.



Brian Dugas
MIS Director
Summit Technical Services, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:31 PM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: RE: Tape rotation best practices


I have a robotic library, so I keep the previous weeks' backups in a firebox
for 5 days (M-F).  On Friday the little man in the van comes to take them
away and he gives me back my tapes from 6 weeks prior.

I backup two of the SQL servers daily because you can't do differential with
SQL.  I'm not sure why it's daily, paranoia maybe.

Exchange, full every day no exceptions and there shouldn't be.

When someone requests something the day after the backup failed I try to
figure out a way to blame them for the backup failing.  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: David Strome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: Tape rotation best practices


Brings up another point that I'm interested in..

We currently keep all tapes offsite except for the current day's set. We
have an extremely simple rotation. M-W differential, overwritten weekly.
Thurs and Fri are full, overwritten every five weeks.

What do other orgs do? How do you balance data retention against liability?
We have a policy that states data not on disk has a lifespan of five
weeks...to avoid the Microsoft horror. Too short?

I'm also wondering if more indepth backup rotations are useful in a smaller
org like us...we typically back up about 150 gigs a week. Or are we still
good with with diff/normal on a weekly basis?

And does anyone else notice that the day after a backup fails, someone asks
for a restore? How the heck to you get around that without having a parallel
backup system doing the same backups? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 11:57 AM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: RE: Off site backups


Sounds like he read a blurb in a magazine.  Does he really mean hire someone
to TAKE backups or does he just want you to establish a tape rotation
whereby most of your tapes are offsite at all times?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:34 PM
To: MSWinNT Discussions
Subject: Off site backups


in lieu of sept 11th our CFO has asked me to research companies that do off
site backups of client networks...  I assume that a company comes in puts a
node on your network and a T circuit and pulls backups off that way ove the
internet?

does anyone know what I am talking about?? if so does anyone know of or
recommend a company that does this

our backups are about 40 GB

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