The need for a stable drive is understandable but from the ASF
perspective I don't think its acceptable to do a release so fast after a
MAJOR code import/donation from IBM. I'd like to see the community get
more "into" the new world before releasing the product as an ASF
product. Otherwise its like an IBM product released under the ASF name
and that's not acceptable.

So I'm -1 on it but I encourage other PMC members to take a look and
vote.

Sanjiva.

On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 07:43 -0400, Daniel Jemiolo wrote:
> Hi Sanjiva,
> 
> The bulk of this release is the IBM contribution, but it is feeding a 
> number of other features and components by developers outside of IBM:
> 
> 1. Members of the Eclipse Corona project (representatives in Muse: Joel 
> Hawkins, Glen Everitt, Dennis O'Flynn) are providing an OSGi port for 
> Muse/Axis2. They will then be using it to build a WSDM interface for the 
> OSGi runtime in Corona.
> 
> 2. We have engaged the Apache Tuscany project in order to align our work 
> in the manageability area with similar work that will be done with 
> SCA/SDO. The Corona contributors were key in starting that conversation 
> and making sure the two projects share as much as possible.
> 
> 3. We have attracted a second developer from GMX who like to work on 
> project/code generation and contribute existing code.
> 
> All of these features, conversations, and development efforts require a 
> stable driver to reference, test against, and share between OSS projects. 
> I certainly didn't mean to imply this was a beta or final release - it's a 
> development milestone that will give us something more solid to work from 
> when building new code.
> 
> Please let me know if I've left anything unclear.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 06/27/2006 02:22 AM
> Please respond to
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> To
> [email protected]
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> [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject
> Re: [VOTE] 2.0.0 Milestone #1 release
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm a bit confused .. didn't the contrib from IBM *just* come in? If so
> is it realistic that this is a community release instead of a rebranded
> release of the submission??
> 
> I'm sorry but I haven't had a chance to understand exactly how this has
> been developed and so would like some more info before agreeing with it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sanjiva.
> 
> On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 09:19 -0400, Daniel Jemiolo wrote:
> > With a lot of help from its existing developers, the Apache Muse project 
> 
> > has welcomed a number of new faces to push the project forward to its 
> next 
> > major version and alignment with the future of Apache Web Services 
> > (specifically, Axis2). I have personally worked with a lot of people who 
> 
> > have never met me but nevertheless were patient and helpful as I tried 
> to 
> > contribute code, understand processes, and gather support for the new 
> > version.
> > 
> > I think the project (code and process) is finally at a point where we 
> can 
> > declare it stable and ready for the six-week release cycle we discussed 
> > earlier this month; the next step is a "development milestone", or 
> > "Milestone #1". This milestone is targeted at developers who are 
> currently 
> > (or would like to) contribute to Muse 2.0, as well as teams that may be 
> > evaluating the new version for future use. It represents an important 
> part 
> > of our march towards 2.0.0 Final and also allows other OSS projects that 
> 
> > are looking to Muse for WSRF/WSDM support to work on their own 
> milestones.
> > 
> > I would like to ask the PMC for their votes for a 2.0.0 M1 release of 
> > Apache Muse. The release files can be found here:
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.apache.org/~danj/muse/2.0.0-M1/
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> > 
> > 
> > Dan Jemiolo
> > IBM Corporation
> > Research Triangle Park, NC
> > 
> > 
> > +++ I'm an engineer. I make slides that people can't read. Sometimes I 
> eat 
> > donuts. +++
> > 
> > 
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