I'd also like to bring to the awareness of this community that Eclipse TPTP 4.2 release due out end of this month has a Managed Agent Explorer that allows introspection of JMX and WSDM resources (http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/drops/TPTP-4.2.0-200606190100A.html). The intention was to point users of Eclipse TPTP to the Apache Muse project to get the Muse runtime which they could use to build WSDM endpoints and also introspect existing WSDM endpoints using the explorer. It would be very helpful for us to have a development driver that we can point to from our documentation in TPTP.

Balan




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06/29/2006 08:57 AM

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Hello Sanjiva,

Has any thought been given to how we integrate Apache releases into
Eclipse projects (and vice versa)? I'm working on a project in Eclipse
(Corona) that uses the new Muse code base, and it would be nice to have
an 'official' milestone within Muse to include. My hope was that we
could use these milestone builds as a mechanism to synchronize between
the Apache and Eclipse worlds as Muse and Corona march towards a true
1.0 release.

Is there a means to dub the proposed Muse release as just a 'get to know
me' release, at least until Eclipse moves it's builds to Maven and we
get that nice SNAPSHOT feature?

Thanks for your consideration,
Joel Hawkins

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From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The need for a stable drive is understandable but from the ASF
perspective I don't think its acceptable to do a release so fast after a
MAJOR code import/donation from IBM. I'd like to see the community get
more "into" the new world before releasing the product as an ASF
product. Otherwise its like an IBM product released under the ASF name
and that's not acceptable.

So I'm -1 on it but I encourage other PMC members to take a look and
vote.

Sanjiva.

On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 07:43 -0400, Daniel Jemiolo wrote:
> Hi Sanjiva,
>
> The bulk of this release is the IBM contribution, but it is feeding a
> number of other features and components by developers outside of IBM:
>
> 1. Members of the Eclipse Corona project (representatives in Muse:
Joel
> Hawkins, Glen Everitt, Dennis O'Flynn) are providing an OSGi port for
> Muse/Axis2. They will then be using it to build a WSDM interface for
the
> OSGi runtime in Corona.
>
> 2. We have engaged the Apache Tuscany project in order to align our
work
> in the manageability area with similar work that will be done with
> SCA/SDO. The Corona contributors were key in starting that
conversation
> and making sure the two projects share as much as possible.
>
> 3. We have attracted a second developer from GMX who like to work on
> project/code generation and contribute existing code.
>
> All of these features, conversations, and development efforts require
a
> stable driver to reference, test against, and share between OSS
projects.
> I certainly didn't mean to imply this was a beta or final release -
it's a
> development milestone that will give us something more solid to work
from
> when building new code.
>
> Please let me know if I've left anything unclear.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 06/27/2006 02:22 AM
> Please respond to
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>
> To
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>
>
>
>
>
> I'm a bit confused .. didn't the contrib from IBM *just* come in? If
so
> is it realistic that this is a community release instead of a
rebranded
> release of the submission??
>
> I'm sorry but I haven't had a chance to understand exactly how this
has
> been developed and so would like some more info before agreeing with
it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 09:19 -0400, Daniel Jemiolo wrote:
> > With a lot of help from its existing developers, the Apache Muse
project
>
> > has welcomed a number of new faces to push the project forward to
its
> next
> > major version and alignment with the future of Apache Web Services
> > (specifically, Axis2). I have personally worked with a lot of people
who
>
> > have never met me but nevertheless were patient and helpful as I
tried
> to
> > contribute code, understand processes, and gather support for the
new
> > version.
> >
> > I think the project (code and process) is finally at a point where
we
> can
> > declare it stable and ready for the six-week release cycle we
discussed
> > earlier this month; the next step is a "development milestone", or
> > "Milestone #1". This milestone is targeted at developers who are
> currently
> > (or would like to) contribute to Muse 2.0, as well as teams that may
be
> > evaluating the new version for future use. It represents an
important
> part
> > of our march towards 2.0.0 Final and also allows other OSS projects
that
>
> > are looking to Muse for WSRF/WSDM support to work on their own
> milestones.
> >
> > I would like to ask the PMC for their votes for a 2.0.0 M1 release
of
> > Apache Muse. The release files can be found here:
> >
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/~danj/muse/2.0.0-M1/
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Dan Jemiolo
> > IBM Corporation
> > Research Triangle Park, NC
> >
> >
> > +++ I'm an engineer. I make slides that people can't read. Sometimes
I
> eat
> > donuts. +++
> >
> >
> >
> >
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