Seeing that the president of MQA came from Warner, I'm sure he's well aware
of what goes on in the studio.  It might just be a matter of your average
modern consumer's distribution / consumption habits and various demographics

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 6:47 PM vicki melchior <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Your confusion is different than Eric’s though.   I was aiming to address
> his previous post about "well i'm not here to talk about whether or not i
> can discriminate dither from music”
>
>
> I agree with your comments.  Subtractive dither is used in the MQA codec
> because Peter Craven is trying to salvage every last ounce of SNR, but it's
> not difficult to handle in a streamed file, and in a situation where the
> original file’s specs are measured during encoding.
>
> Vicki
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 5:53 PM, robert bristow-johnson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 01/10/2022 1:37 PM vicki melchior <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Okay. In the context of subtractive dither, I understand the confusion.
>
>
> I don't.  I'm just confused.
>
> Yes, the purpose of subtractive dither is to reduce the total dither noise
> remaining in the output, typically after adding dither during bit
> reduction. Clearly, that will increase the SNR
>
>
> But only by 4.77 dB.  But, hey, it's 4.77 dB.  So if they can standardize
> how the dither is generated from the LSBs of the quantized signal, and, if
> noise shaping is done, what the transfer function is from dither to
> quantized output, then why not do this subtractive dither thing?
>
> The worst that can happen is that the receiver does not decode those LSBs
> and subtract the dither.  Then you're no worse off than if it was just
> additive dither and you don't recover those 4.77 dB SNR.
>
> and allow you to hear more of the signal.
>
>
> only really makes a difference if the audio is living down by the noise
> floor (which it could be if it's a CD and classical or uncompressed
> acoustic music with a large dynamic range).
>
> but 4.77 dB is 4.77 dB.  that's something.  96 dB dynamic range is better
> than 91 dB.
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