style bazaar would be a better term for whats going on :-) the results achieved since the "official council" was abolished are impressive, and i never said i was frustrated with how the council works, sometimes i think though it works better on the wiki, and on the focussesd rfv/rfc threads, than the very discussion we were all annoyed by.
uuh, this will be a long mail, i try to be brief. I am _extremly_ sceptic which problems TaggerScript will solve, given the ideas i've picked up in this thread (i don't want to dampen the euphoria, but it won't). TaggerScript will help with SG5 (or generally speaking: artist credits on track and release titles). Maybe we'll have an option to set the composer field in classical releases, but not much more at first. Its unscalable to have TaggerScript retrieve related objects (how many, how many levels of recursion?) and have a myriad of settings which track title, or release title should be used in which occasion. i for one will strongly object to have to select a match on each and every duplicate hit (similar to how to old tagger worked on trm collisions). the goal, its written on the PicardTagger pages, is to make the tagger more automatic. This will be a step backward if every track needs user interaction. Then, entering ARs to related the tracks will make the tagging more complex, and obstruct further development (if not, it will bundle at least many resources which should rather be invested into the NextGenerationSchema). now, i just like to "claim", that if a major contributor speaks up (e.g. Nikki, and Jan) in the album version thread, they get the proper respect, and that their opinions are taken seriously, because they more likely have the betterment of musicbrainz in their sights than users whining for their tags (no offence meant, the word has been used before in that matter).
If we have a "Style Council" then they should ultimately be the ones to draw a discussion to a close and adjudicate on whether the proposal should be implemented or not. If they do not do this, then what on earth is the point of it all.
---- Yes, those who do the work get to decide. I understood very clearly what a Meritocracy is about.
> As I said in my other post, meritocracy means that you earn respect in the > areas in which you have done good work. Respect is something that you > earn, you do not claim it. It does not give you power over other people, > because they can (and will) disrespect you if you do not do them justice > anymore.
---- that is what Jan has done. He has driven many style changes in the past. I should have mentioned that too, since everbody jumped on the "topmod" statement and tried very hard to dismiss it, without thinking what the motivation behind this statement was (or without reading Jans mail closely, because it seems i had to point it out several mails later). Jan is very decent, a bit too much i'd like to say. He removed himself from the MusicBrainzBio page, since he feels he is no contributor who should mentioned there, and took the same stance on this discussion.
> [beth] I see that it was giving zout the recognition of knowing what he > was > talking about. Not giving respect to zout that was undeserved.[/beth]
---- Thanks Joan and Beth. Your two statements give me some amends that i was right in my assessment of the situation. regards, Stefan _______________________________________________ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
