2007/1/23, Frederic Da Vitoria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
2007/1/23, Age Bosma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
> > 2007/1/23, Andrew Conkling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> On 1/22/07, Age Bosma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Aaron Cooper wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >> and so on. In the interests of brevity I'd be happy to stop
> >> including
> >> > >> the key in the ReleaseTitle, but maintain it in the TrackTitle, with
> >> > >> the Op. / catalogue number too.
> >> > >
> >> > > Agreed, track titles should always include work name/number, key, and
> >> > > catalog number
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > If we are trying to get a consistent release title style guideline,
> >> > can't we use this as an opportunity to get some cleaner track titles?
> >> > Take e.g. Tchaikovsky's 'The Sleeping Beauty' [1], I still have to
> >> clean
> >> > up the track titles but I'm reluctant to include 'Op. 66' in each track
> >> > title. It's the same for all tracks on both discs and it seems overkill
> >> > to include it for each track. What about an exception to the rule which
> >> > states that when the work number goes for all tracks on a release, you
> >> > only have to include it in the release title and not each individual
> >> > track title?
> >>
> >> I don't think we should make an exception in this case. Believe it or
> >> not (and maybe it's just me), but I'll often search either my music
> >> player or MusicBrainz for a certain opus number, in which case I
> >> expect all tracks with that number to pop up. Also, I rarely think
> >> that the opus number belongs in the release title.
> >
> > I agree with Andrew. We must tend towards consistent rules if we don't
> > want to lose classical users because of the complexity. So let's make
> > as few exceptions as possible and keep rules as simple as possible.
> > For classical (not opera which has special rules), I think we should
> > put catalogue numbers always or never. I guess we all agree it should
> > be always.
> >
>
> Opera has special rules? Please point me to the appropriate MB wiki page
> so I can finally deal with those releases ;-)
>
> Yours,
>
> Age
Easy. Let me see... something like ClassicalStyleGuideDiscussion. :-D
Strangely, although there was some kind of consensus reached in CSGD,
nobody even tried to RFC/RFV them. The problem is opera rules are
sprinkled between general classical rules so that finding them is
tricky (to say the least). What I understood is:
- Opera name
- No catalogue number
- No movement number
- Act number
- Scene number
- First words of the scene
After all, since I speak of it, why not do it. I start a separate thread now.
--
Frederic Da Vitoria
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