On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jeroen Latour <t...@jeroen.la> wrote:
> Hi Brian, > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Brian Schweitzer < > brian.brianschweit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > (By the way: the linked track has composer ARs for Lennon/McCartney - we >>> should probably change that after approval) >>> >>> >> >> I don't follow what you mean here - are you suggesting that the composer >> ARs for Lennon and McCartney should be removed, and replaced by Writer ARs, >> just so the example is consistent? That I would disagree with, as my >> understanding was that the Writer AR would be only used when the more >> detailed composer and/or lyricist AR isn't possible given current info. >> > > No, not just so the example is consistent. I'm saying that 'Writer' seems > more appropriate it, as we do not exactly who of them wrote the lyrics, and > who composed the music. > > These ARs were added here: > http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6076564 > http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6076577 > I'd vote against any edit to remove those particular composer credits; they're really easy ones to verify: http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=358635&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID If the person is given a composer credit at whatever PRO was used to register the song, I think that decision of crediting isn't for us to determine; it's probably the most direct type of clear Artist Intent (or, for some cases I can think of, the outcome of legal settlements.) > Neither of them was added with edit notes. > If there is more information saying that they both composed the music, then > we need to change the example (again...). If not, we > See, I'd disagree. I think the best example here would be something people are likely to recognize. That way the example actually helps clarify. But the more well known the song, the less likely it is to be something we actually do have to use "writer" for, rather than composer or lyricist; that's what I meant when I talked about having to constantly change the example. I think it'd perhaps be better to simply say "if we weren't able to clarify Wikipedia's data further, here's what would be the right AR", even if we don't actually have that AR set on that track because we do actually have that better clarification. > should change the ARs. Several people have acknowledged that in the past > they have used composer as the closest approximation of 'writer', even if it > was not clear whether that artist was indeed the composer. > Brian
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