2011/11/17, Lemire, Sebastien <m...@benji99.ca>: > I propose here an RFC to create a hierarchy in recordings similar as we > have in the works tables. > It expires in 7 days on Novemer 24th 2011. > > Because I haven't thought the consequences through for non-classical music, > this RFC only applies with CSG. > The proposal can be found here: > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:Recording_Parts_Relationship > > NOTE: This is the first time I created a wiki page (I shamelessly copied > from the similar http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Parts_Relationship_Type). > Please feel 100% to make modifications to it or let me know what I need to > modify, change or add. > > *A few extra notes as to why I'm making this proposal.* > In classical music, and Opera, very often, an entire work is performed and > recorded (with it's sub-works or movements). This performance is then split > into tracks on a CD. Having a recording-leve hierarchy would allow us, as > with our works, to concentrate ARs at a higher level than the recordings > present on CDs. This should be discussed in further RFCs but we could for > example store the conductor and orchestra at a higher level as it applies > to all movements/parts. This along, with an inheritance system as proposed > in RFC-339 would simplify editing of classical recordings. > > *Makes adding/editing ARs easier, faster and more streamlined:* > For example, at the moment, if a classical performance has 12 parts and 3 > performers (say a pianist, conductor and orchestra), the ARs need to be > added to every part (36 ARs). Approval and implementation of this RFC would > give us the possibility to only have 3 ARs to enter or correct.The > sub-parts/movements could get the ARs through inheritance. > > *Improvements to the UI and data presentation:* > Having a hierarchy has the potential (as with works) to make dramatic > improvements in how the data is displayed and presented to the user: > - Sub recordings could be hidden from the recordings and relationships > pages making for a much cleaner and useful .pages for heavily recorded > artists such as Herbert von > Karajan<http://musicbrainz.org/artist/d2ced2f1-6b58-47cf-ae87-5943e2ab6d99> > - Classical releases could show only the parent-recordings making for a > much more concise list of works present on a release. This would be more in > line with how allmusic.com presents classical releases. > > *Makes editing recording titles easier:* > The same concept as proposed by me in > MBS-3374<http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-3374> could > apply very well to recording titles allowing us to separate the > parent-recording title (Say Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67) from the > movements and allowing us to edit them separately. > > *Regarding partial recordings on releases* > There are often CDs which have partial recordings (for example most of the > tracks on this release which I'm currently editing: Les Grands Classiques > d'Edgar : Encore > Plus<http://musicbrainz.org/release/f8b78017-9b9a-48fa-8e9b-90310400a84b>). > The fact is that most of these "recorded parts" were actually recorded > along with the remaining parts and released on other albums. Such > recordings will simply be merged with other recordings > > If they haven't and were indeed recorded alone, then a decision will need > to be made in a future RFC. Personally, we should keep the same tree > structure with perhaps an attribute at the supra-recording level that > indicates that this performance is incomplete. > > > *NOTE*: With RFC-341, I'm only proposing the relationship to link > recordings in a hierarchy similar to works. A lot of the advantages I > listed above are future benefits but they will and should be passed in > separate RFCs after this one has passed.
I'd remove the date attributes as they seem meaningless to me. -- Frederic Da Vitoria (davitof) Membre de l'April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - http://www.april.org _______________________________________________ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
