I definitely support using traditional sorting of names regardless of whether the subject is real or fictional. Having an exemption is not only pointless, it’s confusing. Would this cover performance names or alter egos (e.g. Ziggy Stardust)? What about characters whose names are normally written in Eastern order (namely anime characters)?
I’ve heard some scuttlebutt about us doing away with sort names altogether in the near future, so this may not be necessary for too long. (Slightly off-topic: there are books out there credited to fictional characters, e.g. http://www.amazon.com/How-Archer-Ultimate-Espionage-Cocktails/dp/0062066315; it doesn’t appear to contain an index) On Aug 3, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Per Starbäck <per.starb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Earlier a fictitious name like "Mickey Mouse" should be sorted as > "Mickey Mouse", and not "Mouse, Mickey" as if it was a real person, > but RFC 203 aimed to change that. > > See > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2010-March/008876.html > where that is mentioned, and > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=Style%2FArtist%2FSort_Name&diff=37634&oldid=35575 > where this clause is removed. > > * For artist names that are ficticious names, the sort name is the > same as the artist name. > > One problem here is that after this edit nothing is said about the > sorting of names like this. I guess those supporting this RFC thought > the special handling of fictitious names was a strange anomaly in the > guidelines, so by removing the clause it would still be evident how to > sort these names. But sorting fictitious names as we did previously is > really the traditional way, so I think this needs to be explicitly > stated regardless of which way we want to do it! > > I see that Wikipedia also normally sorts in the non-traditional way. > (At > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fictional_characters/Archive_2#DEFAULTSORT: > argues against it without result.) Maybe this is the new emerging > standard, but I still think you wouldn't find many books which will > put "Mouse, Mickey" in the index, and there are still lots of old > geezers like me around, so please state this new rule explicitly! > > _______________________________________________ > MusicBrainz-style mailing list > MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org > http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
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