On 5 Jun 2020, at 23:55, Alexander Perlis <aper...@math.lsu.edu> wrote:

>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Steve Karmeinsky <st...@gbnet.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If anyone can send me something in plain English that I can send to my 
>> contact at MS (he was my account manager when I was at Demon Internet and we 
>> licensed IE - long story), he’s quite senior now ...
> 
> Microsoft's IMAP server outlook.office365.com advertises only the 
> non-standard XOAUTH2. Microsoft itself co-authored the RFC that subsequently 
> standardized that, with a small modification, under the name OAUTHBEARER, yet 
> Microsoft's server doesn't advertise the standard method. The mutt mail 
> client can speak the standard OAUTHBEARER, but hasn't been patched to speak 
> the non-standard XOAUTH2.
> 
> Prior history on this topic:
>  http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20200210/000555.html
>  http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20200210/000558.html
>  http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20200504/000720.html
>  http://lists.mutt.org/pipermail/mutt-dev/Week-of-Mon-20200504/000722.html
> 
> In summary, Microsoft knows about it. From Microsoft's perspective, since 
> Microsoft itself has not yet cut off basic auth support, lack of OAUTHBEARER 
> support is a low priority issue. On the other hand, some institutions have 
> already cut off basic auth, thus breaking their mutt users. At my university 
> I cannot use mutt to access Office365. I will again be able to do so once 
> Microsoft supports OAUTHBEARER, or when mutt supports XOAUTH2.

Sent … UK based so prob won’t pick-up until tomorrow/Mon …

Will revert with any reply

Steve

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