On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:59:40AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> Hmmm... That says to me that your access-time timestamp has been updated
> by something looking at the folder, be it biff or wnewmail or your shell
> or even mutt. You can check with
>
> ls -lFc --full-time apache_users
> ls -lFu --full-time apache_users
Okay, good call. But that doesn't seem to be the problem:
[arrison@bach mail]$ ls -lFc --full-time apache_users
-rw------- <snip> 82378 Mon May 13 11:12:12 2002 apache_users
[arrison@bach mail]$ ls -lFu --full-time apache_users
-rw------- <snip> 82378 Mon May 13 10:16:39 2002 apache_users
My modified date is well after my accessed date and the listing still
displays as:
10 82378 May 13 11:12 apache_users
Even though I have:
set folder_format="%2C %N %8s %d %f"
> To force the situation so that mutt sees the folder as updated, use
>
> touch -m apache_users
Although touch -m does indeed update the modified date, there is no
change in the folder display
> to keep things simple, right? :-) and use ls again to see if the acc time
> has been updated behind your back.
Nope, nothing else is changing the acc time. During all this diagnosing
it hasn't changed at all. (I haven't gone into the folder in Mutt)
> Actually, *that* "N" has nothing to do with the outer N; see the archives
> for vast discussions of "undread mail" and "folders" and the meaning of
> the former in relation to the latter :-)
Ok, got it, "unread message" has nothing to do with the "N" on a "folder
modified since last access".
> It's supposed to be easy, really. The problem is all of these other
> programs that want to be the first to tell you about new mail!
Sorry, not so easy :) FYI: My setup is fetchmail(POP)->procmail->local
folders. Mutt then accesses the folders locally (no IMAP).
Thanks Again,
Mike Arrison
