On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday, September 26 at 12:39 PM, quoth Ravi Uday: >>> That's awfully small. You can make them bigger (e.g. timeout=300, >>> imap_keepalive=60, or even larger). I know the man page makes it sound >>> like timeout really needs to be extra small, but don't sweat it. The >>> default is 600, and you generally don't really need it anywhere near >>> as small as 15. Think about that: that's potentially checking your >>> email every 15 seconds. Depending on the number of mailboxes you have >> >> Well 600 is damn big, check your emails every 10mins !! How did >> you(they) arrive at this number? > > Generally, over IMAP, the *best* way to do it is to use IMAP's IDLE > extension. What happens is that the IMAP server will *notify* you when > you get mail, rather than having you constantly ask it "now? how about > now? now? now? what about now?", and mutt fully supports the IDLE > feature (better than some IMAP servers do, actually). > > Anyway, I don't know where the 10 minute default came from in the > beginning, but I think it's quite reasonable. > >> Outlook does it every 20 secs or lesser. > > No, I'm afraid you're mistaken. > > http://email.about.com/od/outlookexpresstips/qt/et052206.htm says: > > Decide on how often you want Windows Mail or Outlook Express to > look for new mail. Typical values are between 10 and 60 minutes. > > www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/autosr.htm says: > > You should not check it more often than every 8 -10 min because it > creates too much load on your mail server and a large amount of > mail will cause some versions of Outlook to hang if it is still > downloading mail when the next automatic mail pass starts. > > I also just loaded up my copy of VirtualBox to check out Microsoft > Outlook 2000 myself. The default setting for new accounts is to check > for new messages every 10 minutes, and it's *impossible* to change > that setting to less than 1 minute (you can see a screen shot of the
Well I am not mistaken. I dont know which version you are using or looked at: Here is mine : MS Office Outlook 2003 (11.8...) SP3 And in there I can clearly set it at 1 minute. (Goto : Tools->Send/Receive --> Send-Receive-Settings --> Define Send/Receive groups) In there you can see the least allowed is 1 min. I also spoke with network-admin and he confirmed its in the order of secs. Practically, I also asked my colleague to send me a email. And within 20-30secs it was there in my Outlook. > dialog box here: http://www.memoryhole.net/~kyle/outlook.png - note > the "Check for new messages every" config option in the center of the > dialog box). > >> And its better to get your mails fast then wait for 10mins.. > > Ummm, okay... I think if someone has something that important to say, > they should use a medium other than email (such as the phone). Email > transmission can easily introduce delays of several minutes, long > before you even have the chance to receive it. > >> Since I use mutt in a corporate n/w, it doesnt matter if its >> 10secs/20secs. > > The speed of your network doesn't matter. What matters is the load and > response time of your IMAP server. I know mail admins (good ones) that > have warned their users against checking mail more often than every 5 > minutes, despite the fact that most of their clients use a full-duplex > 100 Base-T ethernet connection to connect to the server (and some use > gigabit). It's not necessarily the bandwidth, but also the disk I/O - > when you've got 20+ people all checking their entire folder > hierarchies constantly, that can kill your server. > > Just as an experiment, see how long it takes for the following command > to kill your computer (or just imagine it; trust me, your computer > will quickly become unusable): > > while true; do find $HOME >/dev/null & done > > ...or, even more fun: > > while true; do > find $HOME -type f -exec tail {} \; >/dev/null & > done > > Now, granted, there are ways that you may be able to mitigate the > problem, and let's not get into questions of how powerful and/or > efficient and/or well-configured your mail server is. The fact of the > matter is: checking your mail that quickly (every few seconds) over > and over again is not only uncommon, but generally a really bad > idea---even on a corporate network. > Well most commonly all your terminals(PCs) will be wired to a VLAN operating over a catalyst giga-bit switches. It has the capacity to switch packets at x-gigs per secs and we are here talking of kb's of mail data. Its negligence IMO. - Ravi > If you really MUST have your mail that fast (assuming your IMAP server > doesn't support the IDLE command), then a better option would be to > have your email forwarded to your local computer as it comes in, so > you can check your inbox as often as you want without causing anyone > else any trouble. > > ~Kyle > - -- > No one loves armed missionaries. > -- Maximilien Robespierre > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Comment: Thank you for using encryption! > > iEYEARECAAYFAkjdRgIACgkQBkIOoMqOI14ToACeOTrMHHNuqW3qY1I5MWx60xsJ > SJcAoOXS8cyIru3sEX8HlOmoZuzkk3AX > =51IW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
