On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 04:33:19PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 04:57:15AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05:50AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 07:09:22PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > It's *so* easy to grow your own vegetables.
> > > No one said it was hard... most of the things you pay someone else > > > to do aren't (though some definitely are). > > Well, if you can afford your own Gardener all the better. > > You're focused on ONE MINISCULE ASPECT of the problem, which is a > negligible fraction of the total. As such, your points don't have any > real impact on the discussion. Come back when you're: > - Not ever getting your food from grocery stores/restaurants, AND [...] Agreed. We have a vegetable garden, and it involves quite a bit of time (and some amount of money as well). With two raised beds, we do produce some useful and delicious vegetables, but we are nowhere near at the point where we could live off of food we produce year-roung. And we live in California, with a fairly temperate climate year-round, and own a house with a backyard, which is not the case for a lot of folks. I think there is a middle ground between supporting huge agribusiness and growing / producing / foraging all of your own food, which is difficult or impossible for many. w
