for SMTPs and POPs?

SSL seems to go through the motions in mutt

but SASL
SASL authentication failed

have
set from = "d...@dalekelly.org"
set realname = "Dale"
set pop_pass="pass"
set pop_user="user"
set pop_host=pops://u...@pop.secureserver.net:995
set smtp_url=smtps://u...@smtpout.secureserver.net:465
set smtp_user="user"
set smtp_pass="pass"



I get
Error in /home/dale/.muttrc, line 348: smtp_user: unknown variable
when I set smtp user to
set smtp_user="user"
if I comment it out, I just get
SASL authentication failed

do I need to configure SASL?

no error on
set pop_user="user"

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