On 2022-08-25 07:08, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Jan Eden <t...@eden.one> wrote:
> > 
> > I recently sent a message to this list, and received a couple of DMARC
> > reports from various mail providers to my postmaster address:
> [...]
> > 
> > I was under the impression that earlier issues with DMARC, DKIM and SPF with
> > respect to mailing lists were solvable
> 
> Others have addressed DKIM, but for SPF I have found that every message to a
> mailing list of any size generates a number of reports of SPF failures, even
> though the list has correctly used its own domain in the envelope return path.
> 
> I believe this is because there are people or bots subscribed to the list
> using terrible mail-forwarding configurations, where the forwarded message is
> sent with an envelope sender extracted from the From: header field - either
> because the software is a disaster, or because it's being used on a machine
> that cannot or does not properly record the original envelope when delivering
> received messages.

In my reply to Kevin, I quoted my own mail server's and outlook.com's
authentication results – both handle the mutt.org envelope sender
correctly (spf=pass), but outlook.com still reports an SPF failure as
part of the <policy_evaluated> tag (irrespective of <auth_results>).

- Jan

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