I have been around since almost the beginning and I guess i'm one of the luddites. I do not post much and when I do it is usually because I have taken the windmill i'm about to joust against personally. However i'm usually very busy completing my next actions, wondering why my "use" of it seems so easy compared to the seemingly 300 quadjillion (scientific mathematical term..lol) ways others are using this software (and somehow it accommodates almost all of them) and whatever time is left over I spend trying and discovering new features. I have never read the manual as I learn by playing. I wonder which way is "right" as learning by experimentation just seems so natural. I rarely "ask how" because I'm not a asker. I guess i'm writing for no other reason than to express the opinion do what you want but my opinion is nothing needs not be dragged anywhere into any change. learn by doing. but opinions vary, have fun.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Smith <shiph...@gmail.com> wrote: > > In the past few weeks I have looked at various competing sites and this > was the only software to have > A) moderation that stopped new users from being able to post immediately > and > B) was the only site that didn't allow users to edit their own comments > (yes even after other users had replied). And yes you could also choose > how often you receive emails. > > Conclusion: Google groups is clunky, confusing, semi-abandoned by Google > and is frankly out-of-date. > > Yes any form of progress that involves change is almost guaranteed to > involve squeezing Luddites, but from a business perspective attracting new > customers in significant numbers should be way more important than pleasing > the change resistant old-timers. > > But why must such a system necessarily be free? > > If MLO are serious about helping their very best advocates generate sales > by talking (for free) to new users, I find it strange that they are not > prepared to spend a single cent to facilitate the process - if that is what > you are saying. > On 9 Dec 2014 13:49, "Lisa Stroyan" <lstro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Apologies for that. But it's a Google group with volunteers doing much of >> the moderation. Not only does that mean we have no control over the >> features, but it also means it's not so much a feature problem, just a >> resources problem. >> >> As someone that has been on communication platform search committees and >> has looked into what it might take for organizations to switch between >> types, there is no platform that is perfect and free and even if there was, >> people complain because they are more used to other ways because that is >> what they know. There are big advantages to email groups (but the web >> interface might not be one). This is not a forum, it's an email group with >> a not-great web interface. It's not changing anytime soon, we aren't going >> to get Google to change its model. >> On Dec 8, 2014 8:33 AM, "MrCricket" <mrcric...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, I agree with a machanism of moderation, but I would like to propose >>> to put moderated posts at the end of the thread (with 'now' date, which >>> will advance thread's mtime), else it is being inserted somewhere in the >>> middle of the thread (due to earlier original post time), *so nobody >>> sees it.* >>> I've posted on this forum two messages, for both took about 1-2 days for >>> moderation and got no answers. I think the above is the reason. 10x >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, December 4, 2014 7:53:57 AM UTC+2, Lisa S wrote: >>>> >>>> New members are only moderated until it's obvious they are not trolling >>>> and someone gets around to manually unmoderating them as it's not supported >>>> through the email system (or in the very rare case that a moderator feels a >>>> discussion is getting too personal or vitriolic). 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