Hi Dwight Back in the days, 25 years ago, I used to hack things in my HP48SX, RPN rocks :-) I think it wouldn't be that much of an effort to improve this dialog.
Cheers André PS: Yes, I did the Android App step, works better PPS: Being a software developer myself, I know how hard it is to fit all the needs of your customers Am Donnerstag, 7. März 2019 20:16:18 UTC+1 schrieb Dwight: > > Stéph, brilliant explanation. > > André,I believe that the counter-intuitive part of this is just about the > grouping and order of operations used to combine multiple criteria. You > seem to have a good command of the filters and parameters involved in the > construction of individual parameters. I'd like to suggest that after you > use this system for a couple of days, it becomes intuitive. If you have > ever learned any formal postfix notation such as reverse polish notation I > think you will find that this is not that difficult. I think that the one > really egregious item is the way that when any rule becomes a parent for > subrules, the parent rule's operators and operands if any become hidden. > Learn that one thing and then the rest of it is just a slightly > idiosyncratic version of postfix. > > -Dwight > > ps "name-check" means that you mentioned Stéph's name in your original > post, helping to draw attention to his excellent explanations of MLO. > -d > > On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 12:50:42 PM UTC-5, André Bonhôte wrote: >> >> Hi Stéph >> >> "Name-check" needs some explanation ;-) >> >> Thanks a ton for your explanation. It works, but it's far from intuitive. >> I think you agree that some improvements here would be awesome - like I >> said: some kind of query language, or at least the possibility to move >> things around. >> >> Anyway, it works for the time being. I hope I don't have to change this >> filter set one day ;-) >> >> Cheers >> >> André >> >> >> >> Am Donnerstag, 7. März 2019 18:00:43 UTC+1 schrieb Stéph: >>> >>> Hello André. >>> It's me - thanks for the name-check! >>> >>> You've spotted the oddity with adding a set of subrules. When you click >>> "Add subrule", it effectively changes your current rule into the >>> open-bracket to group your subrules, wiping out any parameters you'd >>> started entering into that rule. The thing to do is always click "Add >>> rule" just before you click "Add sub-rule". >>> >>> So, if you want to add your rules in the order you first wrote them in >>> your post, start by clicking "Add rule" (which is going to be your opening >>> bracket), then click "Add sub-rule" (to start entering the first of the >>> three rules inside your brackets). >>> >>> When you've entered the three sub-rules (by clicking "Add-rule" each >>> time for the second and third sub-rules, you'll want to add your final >>> top-level rule (the one outside the brackets). If you just click "Add rule" >>> where you are, it will add it as a fourth sub-rule, within the brackets. To >>> get back to the top level in the tree (same as if you're adding tasks and >>> sub-tasks in the MLO outline), you need to click on the AND at the top of >>> the list (the open bracket, which is the only item at the top level in the >>> hierarchy) and select "Add rule". >>> >>> That's a bit hard to read, so I'll try and explain it more graphically: >>> >>> >>> 1) AND [add this grouping for the next three subrules by clicking >>> "Add rule", but don't bother putting any criteria into the rule. We just >>> want the "AND"] >>> 1.1) dueDate <= today OR [Line 1.1 appears when you're on line 1 and >>> click "Add subrule"] >>> 1.2) startDate <= today OR [Line 1.2 is created by clicking "Add >>> rule" when you've finished editing the criteria for 1.1] >>> 1.3) starred = true OR [Line 1.3 is created by clicking "Add rule" >>> when you've finished editing the criteria for 1.2] >>> 2) hasNextReview = false AND [To create a rule which is not another >>> subrule of line 1, you have to *go back to selecting line 1 *and click >>> "Add rule"] >>> >>> >>> I hope that helps. >>> Stéphane >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, 7 March 2019 15:23:47 UTC, André Bonhôte wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I still don't get how the "Setup Advanced filtering" dialog is supposed >>>> to work (Windows). Let's say, I want to create a rule like this (SQLish >>>> notation): >>>> >>>> >>>> ( dueDate <= today OR startDate <= today OR starred = true ) AND >>>> hasNextReview = false >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I learned that the booleans work with siblings, not with childs (as I >>>> initially thought), that means I would have something like this >>>> >>>> >>>> AND >>>> dueDate <= today OR >>>> startDate <= today OR >>>> starred = true OR >>>> hasNextReview = false AND >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Now, assuming this is correct - how do I easily add this to the >>>> advanced filter dialog? >>>> >>>> First attempt: "Add sub-rule" >>>> >>>> Nothing happens at all. >>>> >>>> >>>> Second attempt: "Add rule" (let's start from the bottom): >>>> >>>> [X] NextReviev - does not exist - AND >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fine, now the next block is not a rule, it's rather a set of sub rules. >>>> When I click "Add sub-rule", it will behave weirdly: >>>> >>>> [X] > >>>> [X] .... (empty) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Where has my "NextReview" line gone? I can try to revert and delete the >>>> empty sub-rule, but that doesn't work. All I can do is delete all rules >>>> and >>>> start from scratch. Pretty cumbersome. >>>> >>>> I solved this by exporting the rules, sending them to my android >>>> device, editing there (it's better but still bad), sending it back to my >>>> windows device, noticing that the rule doesn't work. In the end I opened >>>> the XML and modified it by hand. >>>> >>>> Cumbersome, IMHO. >>>> >>>> In another post >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mylifeorganized/iIqFqs4Kl1Y/oTOivaMYAQAJ> >>>> I saw Stéph write something that looks very similar to my pseudo code >>>> snippets. >>>> >>>> Are there activities ongoing to improve this? Some kind of pseudo code >>>> like remember the milk offers >>>> <https://www.rememberthemilk.com/help/answer/basics-search-advanced>would >>>> be awesome. I must admit that this is the only part of MLO I really hate. >>>> It could be so powerful and is such a nightmare to use. It's really >>>> frustrating. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> André >>>> >>>> PS: On my 4K screen I can only guess what the filters mean >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/47b2591a-5427-430a-b93b-47ac9285ed14%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
