Hi Till , Hi Bol, For going to the point : I agree with Bol proposition and feedbacks, and also Till 's notes. I will work to update my mockup soon :) I think in order to keep the default interface simple ( to not affraid beginners ) and compatible with 1024px large , most of optional 'extra tools' could be activated via the preferences panel. This place would be better than the actual right-click on the toolbar , in my opinion. Here would be a new 'Toolbar' tab :
---------------------------------------- Toolbar preferences : ☑ Show toolbar ☐ Show top menu ☑ File handling ....... ☐* **Scrap navigation* ☑ Undo and Redo ☑ Editing modes ....... ☐ *Circle and Sequence of lines *☑ Blend Mode ....... ☐ *extras* ☑ View ....... ☐ *extras* ☑ Subwindows ---------------------------------------- *Details :* - True, the tracing tools ( continuous line and circle ) should be also reachable in the toolbar if a user want it. I agree with Bol's point. On my mockup, they are on the drop down menu. It add another step/click in the process. I never use here the continuous line , and rarely the circle. That why I hidden them in the drop down menu. I still think default should hide them. And let user discover them with the time. If user require it for a work with speed access, he can 'activate' them via the preferences panel. - For the blending mode , I'm convinced it's hard as hell to make good icons of brush blending mode ; the current icons, show a tool ( a brush ) and a sort of ink. It's confusing. I'm also convinced the current way to have a "alpha locking" in Mypaint is wrong. it shouldn't be brush based ; but this lock should be per layer based . ( ex : I lock alpha on the layer , then I can use the brush preset I want to paint the shape locked , btw I like the feedback with brush outliner shape on canvas ). But implementing the per layer via GUI would represent for sure a big change for developers. And to go to a friendly and easy workaround solution, I would say I will add back to my mockup the "alpha locking" icon in the 'ink' category next to the eraser ( redesigning the icon, to not display a brush tool on it ). Here I'm waiting a lot for 'multiply' blending mode, or 'glazing' . 2012/9/25 Till Hartmann <[email protected]> > Looks like a reasonable default to me. > Now that I look at your proposal, it strikes me that the canvas setup is > indeed scattered to many different menus (e.g. enabling/disabling the frame > is in the file menu, whereas editing frame options is in the edit menu [and > besides is actually called "Edit Frame" which is weird because "Edit" is > already the menu's title]) so I'd say reorganizing features regarding the > canvas into a single canvas setup sounds like a good idea to me. > I've never noticed that there are no separators between any of the icons > on the toolbar which makes it difficult to navigate them. > > As to Bol's (or Bib's? ;) ) suggestion that users may want to customize > toolbar layout... hm. I know there are lots of applications which allow > that BUT it makes it way more difficult to help people who (accidentally?) > jumbled up their toolbar setup; or to discuss some workflow with other > people who simply have got a different toolbar setup. > > I'm more of the minimalist myself. I've started using mypaint when it > didn't have that many options and toolbar buttons and to choose between > options that were there I'd use the keyboard anyway. What I intend to say > is that if there's to be any toolbar-customization-option it should also be > possible to remove icons from the toolbar ;) > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Mypaint-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/**mypaint-discuss<https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/mypaint-discuss> >
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