On 5 September 2013 03:23, Elliott Sales de Andrade
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Fully agree with putting the Rename and Edit Icon buttons on the top
>> row, near the name and the icon (!). Do you think we could make the
>> icon and the name clickable in some way, or would that make the editor
>> window less obvious to casual users?
>
> I guess an example of this is the GNOME Control Center User Accounts panel.
> Your user icon, name, password, and language appear normal, but show the
> button frame when you hover over them. I'm not sure if they have a custom
> widget for it though.

That also makes the text bigger, and puts both the icon and the name
in the "realm of the editable", i.e. in the central or right-hand area
looking at the screenshot on
http://screenshots.debian.net/package/gnome-control-center and near
the other controls. Quite a subtle hint, really.

I'm not sure we can use the same placement, because the information
hierarchy is different: the control center uses its left-hand list to
choose a user to edit: we use that area to choose a brush setting to
edit, belonging to the current brush.

The rollover can possibly be done using GTK_RELIEF_NONE and a regular button.

> I feel like you may have your RTLs and LTRs mixed up here. English is LTR.

Hah! I really should learn to proof-read these things before sending.
Correcting my earlier screwup:

* Delete: bottom left (SW)
* Rename and Edit Icon: integrate with the icon preview and the name label.
 - Make the icon a normal-looking button, and the name "label" a
rollover button, maybe...
* Save: Bottom right (SE)
* Copy to New: bottom right, near Save (SE)
* Live Update: top right? (NE)

> The GNOME HIG (however outdated that may be) has the "most useful" (or let's
> say, "most likely to be something a user would press") button at the far
> right, so at the very least, I'd expect Save to be there, and certainly not
> Delete.

Okay, so perhaps that could be a [Save][Save as New] cluster. I think
it'd be a good idea to rename "Copy to New", if it's taking the role
of a specialized save button.

-- 
Andrew Chadwick

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