Dear René ,

First of all i apologize from all mysql list and
all mysql team (except one :)   )
I think this is a virtue that realizing when to stop and when to apologize.

your product and your documentation works fine
and i am not directly blaming anyone related to this product.
The problem is not in documentation nor in product.

well like i said in my last mail this situation is become too personal
between two person.
That's why i am stoping to write about this subject.

you 're 100%  right in your mail
and again sorry for wasted time for all list members.
Regards.

Yusuf Incekara

----- Original Message -----
From: René Tegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Yusuf Incekara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Plase Let us know if there is a Racialism for Mysql product and
quit


> Yusuf,
>
> i don't understand why you are so angry and are trying to fight it out on
> this list.
>
> 1. Loads of computer-related things are vulnerable for different
> explanations. especially with software that is easily ported between
> platforms, it's also easy to have a manual that is not dedicated for one
> platform and thus now and then one makes mistakes in interpration. There
> will be thousands of other things to discuss about, but there is never
> reason to get angry
>
> 2. All people joining this list are volunteers. They answer just what they
> think, and i never discovered somebody being not honest. Maybe somebody is
> wrong, but we all make mistakes. Every sentence said is the author's
> personal knowledge and/or opinion.
>
> 3. Nobody ever blamed you for not being native english. Only thing said
was:
> read carefully, and if it's not working, think twice about what's being
> said.
>
> 4. I'd love it if all software was that well documented as mysql, and that
> easy-to-use
>
> Last but not least: i hope you have a nice time programming and
researching,
> which looks like a better thing to do for me than wasting your time
blaming
> people for things nobody really did wrong. Let's discuss things
technically,
> ok?
>
> regards,
>
> rene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yusuf Incekara" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "John Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Plase Let us know if there is a Racialism for Mysql product
and
> quit
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Yusuf Incekara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: Plase Let us know if there is a Racialism for Mysql product
> and
> > quit
> >
> >
> > > At 18:50 18/04/2001 +0300, you wrote:
> > > >You said :
> > > >Only those who don't read English too good. Being a native English
> > speaker
> > > >it is very clear to me.
> > >
> > > Correct and it is obvious to me that your English is very poor
> > >
> > It is your humble opinion. I don't care.
> > >
> > >
> > > >Could you please be more open and honest?
> > >
> > > I could not be more open or honest than what I said above. But just in
> > case
> > > you don't understand I will say it again. Your English is poor
> > >
> > It is your humble opinion. I don't care also.
> > The problem is not in reading and understanding
> > in English.  Problem is in your mind.
> > Let me try to explain. Question is about being open and honest.
> > That means if you have an opinion you can easily defend this opinion in
> > everywhere.
> > And have to tell this in every platform as your opinion.
> > If theese opinions are rude so you are rude. But this is you are.
> > Act what you are and what you seems like.
> > But don't try to hide them and don't act in different platform in
> different
> > ways.
> >
> > > >It is obviously seen that i can easily read and write in English.
> > >
> > > Only you think so
> > >
> > > >But if you disturbed that one Turk found your bug please let me know
> > > >and quit .
> > >
> > > Personally I could not care less from which country you come from
> > >
> > > >Let all your customers become from Mansfield, England, UK.
> > >
> > > Look what you said above. That sentence does not make sense. What do
you
> > > mean, "Let all your customers become from Mansfield ...." You are not
> even
> > > a customer you are just an upset user who can not take the truth
> >
> > Well the truth is situation is not about my English or not about me to
pay
> > license fee.
> > The problem is about you are harding to accept you fault.
> > So i solved my problem. And just don't want others users to have same
> > problem.
> > That's all.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am not insisting that my English is perfect. But be sure that
> > > >it is not necessary that being a native English speaker.
> > > >
> > > >I said that no matter but you are looking for a trouble ...
> > >
> > > Only you say that because you must have some kind of persecution
complex
> > or
> > > inferiority complex
> >
> > Well it must be a complex of yours and i think it can be named
> > insufficient understanding complex , harding to accepting you fault
> complex
> > ,
> > (thinking) faultless complex , individuality complex etc...
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >If you read carefully followed instructions ( by using your perfect
> > native
> > > >English )
> > > >you 'll see the differences between Windows directory and System
> > Directory.
> > >
> > > I am perfectly aware of the difference but it is obvious you don't
what
> is
> > > meant by what is written in the manual. Windows-system-directory does
> not
> > > equal windows\system. The give away are the hyphens i.e '-' between
the
> > > words windows, system and directory. Note it does not contain any
> > > backslashes i.e. '\'
> > >
> > >
> > well it is more obvious that
> > Windows-system-directory is not equal Windows directory.
> > Any Windows programmer - as well as noticed in Microsoft References-
> > knows that Windows Directory is a c:\Win95 or c:\WinNT and
> > System Directory or Windows System Directory is a c:\Win95\System or
> > c:\WinNT\System32 (or c:\WinNT\System or whatever).
> > And this situation becomes more personal. That'y why
> > i won't reply any mail. I hope this will be the last...
> >
> >
> > > >If still there is some issues that your perfect English mind can not
> > > >understand
> > > >please mail me.
> > >
> > > I have no the consult you whatever on any issue concerning Windows or
> the
> > > Windows API
> > >
> > >
> > > >If you say still i am native English. No one can knows better then me
> > even
> > > >Microsoft
> > > >so there is nothing to say.
> > >
> > > I think you need to return to school since it is obvious you were not
> > > taught manners and while you are there perhaps you improve your poor
> > Engliah
> > >
> > Well i can easily understand what i read in English by using my poor
> > English.
> > But it is hard you to be success in your life with your poor
personality.
> > You should better go to a psychiatrist.
> > >
> > > >If you undertand your mistake and wanna apologize please forget it.
> > >
> > > This I would never do especially to somebody as bad mannered as you
> > >
> > >
> > > >Regards.
> > > >
> > > >Yusuf Incekara
> > > >Avukatpro Limited Sirketi
> > > >Izmit/Turkey (sorry for not being a native English but smart)
> > >
> > > No you not naive English nor are you smart
> > >
> > Thanks god for not to be a native English (if they are all like you)
> > and thanks also giving us a gift that does not exist on them ?
> >
> > (you will hard to understand this . answer : brain)
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >What do Ineed this for. I have the complete API reference in
hardcopy.
> > > >Perhap you would do well to read it. That way you would not make such
a
> > > >fool of yourself
> > > >
> > > >GetSystemDirectory
> > > >
> > > >Reference : Microsoft Web site :
> > > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/sysmgmt/sysinfo_1unt.htm
> > > >
> > > >The GetSystemDirectory function retrieves the path of the system
> > directory.
> > > >The system directory contains such files as dynamic-link libraries,
> > drivers,
> > > >and font files.
> > > >
> > > >UINT GetSystemDirectory(
> > > >   LPTSTR lpBuffer,  // buffer for system directory
> > > >   UINT uSize        // size of directory buffer
> > > >);
> > > >Parameters
> > > >lpBuffer
> > > >[out] Pointer to the buffer to receive the null-terminated string
> > containing
> > > >the path. This path does not end with a backslash unless the system
> > > >directory is the root directory. For example, if the system directory
> is
> > > >named WINDOWS\SYSTEM on drive C, the path of the system directory
> > retrieved
> > > >by this function is C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.
> > > >uSize
> > > >[in] Specifies the maximum size of the buffer, in TCHARs. This value
> > should
> > > >be set to at least MAX_PATH.
> > > >Return Values
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >GetWindowsDirectory
> > > >
> > > >Reference : Microsoft Web site :
> > > >http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/sysmgmt/sysinfo_4k55.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >GetWindowsDirectory
> > > >The GetWindowsDirectory function retrieves the path of the Windows
> > > >directory. The Windows directory contains such files as applications,
> > > >initialization files, and help files.
> > > >
> > > >UINT GetWindowsDirectory(
> > > >   LPTSTR lpBuffer,  // buffer for Windows directory
> > > >   UINT uSize        // size of directory buffer
> > > >);
> > > >Parameters
> > > >lpBuffer
> > > >[out] Pointer to the buffer to receive the null-terminated string
> > containing
> > > >the path. This path does not end with a backslash unless the Windows
> > > >directory is the root directory. For example, if the Windows
directory
> is
> > > >named WINDOWS on drive C, the path of the Windows directory retrieved
> by
> > > >this function is C:\WINDOWS. If the system was installed in the root
> > > >directory of drive C, the path retrieved is C:\.
> > > >uSize
> > > >[in] Specifies the maximum size, in TCHARs, of the buffer specified
by
> > the
> > > >lpBuffer parameter. This value should be set to MAX_PATH to allow
> > sufficient
> > > >room for the path.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: John Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: Yusuf Incekara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:11 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: Ynt: Bug in Documentation ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > At 09:29 18/04/2001 +0300, you wrote:
> > > > > >Ok . No matter for me anymore. cause i solved my problem.
> > > > > >i'm paying attention for other users not to have
> > > > > >the same problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only those who don't read English too good. Being a native English
> > speaker
> > > > > it is very clear to me
> > > > >
> > > > > >Regards
> > > > > >Yusuf Incekara
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: John Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: Yusuf Incekara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:27 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Bug in Documentation ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > This is not a "bug" in the documentation, it is the way you
have
> > > > > > > interpreted what it says
> > > > > > > On a Win9x/ME system the Windows-System-Directory is called
> > x:\Windows
> > > >but
> > > > > > > in Windows NT and Windows 2000 it is called WinNT. If the
author
> > meant
> > > >to
> > > > > > > write windows(winnt)\system that is what he would have
written,
> > not
> > > > > > > windows-system-directory. So I am sorry to say it is you that
is
> > wrong
> > > >not
> > > > > > > the documentation writer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 10:00 17/04/2001 +0300, Yusuf Incekara wrote:
> > > > > > > >in Mysql documents
> > > > > > > >section 4.16.5 Options files
> > > > > > > >it is documented as :
> > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >MySQL reads default options from the following files on
> Windows:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Filename  Purpose
> > > > > > > >windows-system-directory\my.ini   Global options
> > > > > > > >C:\my.cnf      Global options
> > > > > > > >C:\mysql\data\my.cnf     Server-specific options
> > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >windows-system-directory\my.ini  Global options  line is
> > incorrect
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >it must be corrected as : windows-directory\my.ini  ?
> > > > > > > >Cause when i try to use my.ini option file which is located
in
> > > > > > > >c:\windows\system directory it doesn't works.
> > > > > > > >But when i put it into a c:\windows directory it works fine.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Regards.
> > > > > > > >Yusuf INCEKARA
> > > > > > > >Avukatpro Limited Sirketi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
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