On 9/1/2011 9:46 AM, Rik Wasmus wrote:
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From: Peter Brawley [mailto:peter.braw...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:40 AM
To: r...@grib.nl; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: locked non-existent row

On 8/31/2011 4:50 AM, Rik Wasmus wrote:
While a transaction in one thread tries to update a non-existent InnoDB
row with a given key value, an attempt to insert that value in another
thread is locked out. Does anyone know where this behaviour is
documented?
[JS] Forgive my ignorance, but I thought that was standard behavior for a
row- or row-range lock (not just MySQL) in any DBMS that supported row
locking. (Back when these things were first being invented, one term was
"predicate locking.") The general idea was that you are locking rows that
meet certain criteria, whether any or all of them exist or not. You're
locking not only the existence, but the potential existence, of those
rows.

I would expect it to apply not only to keys, but to any set. For example,

SELECT * FROM `t` WHERE `t`.`x`<  3 FOR UPDATE;

should lock all rows where `t`.`x`<  3 for update, insertion, or deletion
-- regardless of whether or not `x` is a key. Otherwise you have no way of
knowing who wins.

The ability to lock non-existent records is critical.
Yes, though I'm told that SQL Server, for example, does not do this (I've not confirmed that myself). The question here is whether the cited docs para adequately describes what InnoDB is doing, ie treating a single non-existent key value as a range.

PB

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I concur, although this is just a transaction consisting of 1 statement :).

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