I got a solution maybe

step 1:
mysql> explain select * from users;
+----+-------------+-------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+----------+-------+
| id | select_type | table | type | possible_keys | key  | key_len |
ref  | rows     | Extra |
+----+-------------+-------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+----------+-------+
|  1 | SIMPLE      | users | ALL  | NULL          | NULL | NULL    |
NULL | 32883093 |       |
+----+-------------+-------+------+---------------+------+---------+------+----------+-------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

so you get the "rows" field

Step2:
select * from users, limit $r,1


What do you think? Is the only way i found what delays seconds not
minuts. USERS is a 19GB Table for me.

LD

2011/10/30 Jan Steinman <j...@bytesmiths.com>:
> Actually, having tried that, you still need the ORDER BY RAND() in there. 
> Otherwise, I keep getting the same record over and over. But it surely cuts 
> way down on the number of rows that need to be sorted.
>
> So if your table size is fairly stable, and you pick a good number for the 
> WHERE constant, you can make this quite speedy.
>
> Still, it seems there should be a better way...
>
> On 30 Oct 11, at 18:51, Jan Steinman wrote:
>
>>> From: mos <mo...@fastmail.fm>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 10:34 AM 10/24/2011, you wrote:
>>>> select id from table order by rand() limit 1;
>>>> is doing as example a dumb temporary table with the full size
>>>
>>> Because it has to sort the entire table, then it returns the one row. This 
>>> of course is extremely inefficient. :)
>>
>> That is absolutely incredible and counter-intuitive, and (as you say) 
>> extremely inefficient!
>>
>> This is used everywhere. Perhaps it is one of the biggest "anti-patterns" in 
>> SQL. I just checked two different SQL "cookbook" sites, and they both 
>> recommend ORDER BY RAND().
>>
>> I just googled around a bit, and found that putting RAND() in the WHERE 
>> clause is very efficient:
>>
>> SELECT id FROM table WHERE RAND() < 0.01 LIMIT 1
>>
>> The comparison constant can be optimized for the number of rows you have. 
>> The above returns the first record of 1% of the table. If you have a million 
>> rows, you might want to bump that to something like 100 parts per million or 
>> so.
>>
>> But really, folks, this is something so ubiquitous and so recommended, why 
>> can't the query optimizer look out for ORDER BY RAND() and simply skip the 
>> table sort and just grab some record? (Hopefully using something better than 
>> Knuth's LCRNG...)
>>
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>> of the cultural heritage of the last few hundred years. -- David Holmgren
>> :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op ::::
>>
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