I've followed the NuSphere vs MySQL AB conflict/debate with great interest
and I really hope that the conflict will be resolved to the satisfaction
of both parties and most of all MySQL users.  I was excited when NuSphere
(Progress) joined the MySQL community.  Progress knows a lot about
databases and I thought that they could make MySQL even better.
Unfortunately, Progress has not demonstrated, so far, that they understand
"Open Source" and its principles.  Why didn't Progress "Open Source" their
own database server instead of taking a part of its database technology
and "plugging" it into the MySQL server?  Maybe Oracle would take a note
and pay attention to what Progress is doing.  Where are other Progress
contributions to the "Open Source" such as direct db drivers for php,
perl, python, etc?

-Igor

On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Santi Chumbe wrote:

> Interesting position. The NuSphere’s people are really very clever.
>
> Interesante posicion. Sabiendo el respeto que tenemos por Paul, este mensaje  juega a
> favor de NuSphere.
>
>
> Paul DuBois wrote:
>
> > In the interests of stemming some of the flood of invective being
> > directed against NuSphere...
> >
> > I am an employee of NuSphere.
> >
> > Those of you who feel it necessary immediately to jump up and denounce
> > NuSphere for their sins, please ask yourself:  Do you think I'd work for
> > them if I thought they were a bunch of scumbags?  They're not.  NuSphere
> > is interested in promoting MySQL, not in destroying it.  For example,
> > they pay me a salary to support my writing about MySQL full time, and
> > they make no demands that I mention NuSphere in my books (though they're
> > of course happy if I do).  You'll see some of the fruit of this support
> > next month when the MySQL/Perl book comes out - a book that I hope will
> > be of some service to the MySQL community.
> >
> > The dispute will be worked out by the parties involved.  Nobody's happy
> > about it, but resolving it is difficult because both sides feel they
> > have a reasonable position.  You can see this from the messages being
> > posted by the directors of MySQL AB and NuSphere.  And of course once
> > the lawyers get involved, things don't get any easier.
> >
> > Make your opinions known, certainly.  You're all part of the MySQL
> > community and your views are valuable.  But please, leave the flames out
> > of it. They're not constructive.
> >
> > Please be clear what I'm saying.  I am an employee of (not an apologist
> > for) NuSphere, and I'm not saying "don't criticize NuSphere." I'm saying
> > that flames aren't helping anything, particularly if you are not in
> > possession of all the facts behind the dispute.
> >
> > No one at NuSphere has asked that I write this.  They've asked me for
> > feedback, but no one has suggested that I take a "side".  I am reluctant
> > to do so anyway because it's not clear that there's any merit in doing
> > so, and I don't think I have all the facts, either.
> >
> > Paul DuBois
> > Author, "MySQL" (the book, not the server!)
> >
> > --
> > Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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