In the interests of stemming some of the flood of invective being directed against NuSphere... I am an employee of NuSphere. Those of you who feel it necessary immediately to jump up and denounce NuSphere for their sins, please ask yourself: Do you think I'd work for them if I thought they were a bunch of scumbags? They're not. NuSphere is interested in promoting MySQL, not in destroying it. For example, they pay me a salary to support my writing about MySQL full time, and they make no demands that I mention NuSphere in my books (though they're of course happy if I do). You'll see some of the fruit of this support next month when the MySQL/Perl book comes out - a book that I hope will be of some service to the MySQL community. The dispute will be worked out by the parties involved. Nobody's happy about it, but resolving it is difficult because both sides feel they have a reasonable position. You can see this from the messages being posted by the directors of MySQL AB and NuSphere. And of course once the lawyers get involved, things don't get any easier. Make your opinions known, certainly. You're all part of the MySQL community and your views are valuable. But please, leave the flames out of it. They're not constructive. Please be clear what I'm saying. I am an employee of (not an apologist for) NuSphere, and I'm not saying "don't criticize NuSphere." I'm saying that flames aren't helping anything, particularly if you are not in possession of all the facts behind the dispute. No one at NuSphere has asked that I write this. They've asked me for feedback, but no one has suggested that I take a "side". I am reluctant to do so anyway because it's not clear that there's any merit in doing so, and I don't think I have all the facts, either. Paul DuBois Author, "MySQL" (the book, not the server!) -- Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php