Peter,
> So (taking a deep breath !) I would be prepared to lay the foundations
for a
> faq / knowledge base aimed specifically at this type of questions and
to
> manage it.
Thanks, I appreciate that. I've been waiting a moment before answering,
waiting for others to take a deep breath and say "yes", too, but it
seems you are the only one.
> [James: ] $44.99 SRP - a low cost compared to the 'deep breath" below
:-)
I know there are good books, and I especially like Paul's books on
MySQL. There are good books by German authors on MySQL, too.
But, then again, refering to books will bring up the same sort of
answers people on this list are complaing about ("hey, stupid, go buy
book xyz and read it before asking silly questions"). With a FAQ, this
could be "You will find the answer for your question at
www.mysql.com/faq/answer_xyz.html".
> So, any thoughts? Where do we go from here?
Nowhere, I suppose :(
Maybe some of the folks at MySQL AB will read this and come up with a
database structure for the FAQ on MySQL.com and user accounts for you
and me (and maybe others, once this thing has started).
Regards,
--
Stefan Hinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Geschäftsführer / CEO iConnect GmbH <http://iConnect.de>
Heesestr. 6, 12169 Berlin (Germany)
Tel: +49 30 7970948-0 Fax: +49 30 7970948-3
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lovatt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cal
Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam
Wi´ckowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:18 AM
Subject: RE: An Idea
> Hi
>
> My first thought was that the docs on mysql.com should do the job,
but,
> although they answer most technical questions, often more down to
earth
> stuff like 'How do I store images' or 'how do I get started with SQL'
isn't
> there, or it is difficult to find.
>
> The other problem is that the documentation is often technical to
point that
> it is difficult to understand, even as a reasonably competent database
> programmer. I think newbies (and not so newbies) could feel totally
> overwhelmed by much of it.
>
> So (taking a deep breath !) I would be prepared to lay the foundations
for a
> faq / knowledge base aimed specifically at this type of questions and
to
> manage it.
>
> So, any thoughts? Where do we go from here?
>
> Peter
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 29 December 2002 22:01
> To: Cal Evans; Paul DuBois; Adam Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: An Idea
>
>
> Cal, Paul, dear list,
>
> thank you, Cal, for your wise words ...
>
> > "Here's the FAQ we developed so you don't have to waste our time
> asking
> > questions that have already been answered."
>
> Go to MySQL.com and type "FAQ" in the search box. This will provide 71
> results, some of them with valuable FAQ-like information, but no real
> FAQ.
>
> Instead, we have this in every list mail:
>
> > Before posting, please check:
> > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual)
> > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive)
>
> I would keep this shorter, saying "Believe in God and do not sin" ;-)
>
> But seriously: Anybody here interested in setting up a FAQ on
MySQL.com
> / MySQL.de,
> - with "silly" common questions from this list,
> - and with answers in "small tutorial" format (something like
> http://www.mysql.com/articles/dotnet/index.html),
> - well organized (one person to collect / insert the "silly"
questions),
> - easy to search (only search term + search by category),
> - easy to maintain (e. g. with user comments, like the English
manual),
> - even easier to use as a referer than the MySQL manual when answering
> questions?
>
> Flame me if there _is_ a FAQ like this. At least I didn't find it at
> MySQL.com, which is most probably the first place a new MySQL user
would
> look for it.
>
> I am the German translator of the official MySQL manual, so I could
> offer to translate as much as I can from the FAQ into German.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Stefan Hinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Geschäftsführer / CEO iConnect GmbH <http://iConnect.de>
> Heesestr. 6, 12169 Berlin (Germany)
> Tel: +49 30 7970948-0 Fax: +49 30 7970948-3
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cal Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Wi´ckowski"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:00 PM
> Subject: RE: An Idea
>
>
> > Because that's the way that (FoxPro, Access, Paradox, insert name of
> > favorite desktop RDBMS here) did it and I can't make the jump to a
> real
> > server based RDBMS!
> >
> > Why do you ask? :)
> >
> > Seriously, I find this type of issue (not your question Paul, the
> original
> > question) one of the most troubling things about this list. We as a
> > community of SQL developers (regardless of dialect) need to make a
> more
> > concentrated effort to explain the differences between desktop
> databases and
> > real database engines. We need to educate people making the
changeover
> > before releasing them into the wild. (Maybe the link to download
MySql
> could
> > ask a few basic questions to prove you know what you are doing
before
> being
> > allowed to download!) :)
> >
> > I cut my teeth on FoxPro. The first SQL I wrote was in the FoxPro
> (2.5/6?)
> > dialect. I know from whence I speak because I asked these same
> questions
> > many years ago. Luckily, I found people who kindly but firmly
pointed
> me in
> > the right direction. ("You DON'T need gapless sequences for PK's."
> "You
> > DON'T store images in the actual database without permission from
> God."
> > "Here's the FAQ we developed so you don't have to waste our time
> asking
> > questions that have already been answered." "Thank you, come
again.")
> They
> > showed me the light and occasionally I try to share what little I
know
> with
> > others.
> >
> > I guess what I'm trying to say is to those who know something (even
if
> you
> > are like me and are constantly amazed at what you DON'T know) share
> kindly
> > and willingly. To those seeking enlightenment...RTFM you mook! Check
> the
> > !*#&^ archives and use Google, this issue has been beat to death!
> >
> > Humbly,
> > =C=
> > *
> > * Cal Evans
> > * The Virtual CIO
> > * http://www.calevans.com
> > *
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul DuBois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:02 AM
> > To: Adam Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: An Idea
> >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
>
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