Ian Trider wrote:

On 7/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am running Fedora Core 3 and am looking for instructions on setting-up my 
computer to go into a low-power mode (not suspend to hard drive) when I am not 
using MythTV. How would I do this (any links?)?
Lucky you, I just found a page about this topic, which seems to be one
of the Great Mysteries of Linux and one of those things that's always
irritated me because it's so dead simple to do in Windows and so
****ing ridiculous under linux. :(

http://www.ma.utexas.edu/users/stirling/computergeek/powersaving.html

Did you even read the post you "just found?"  ;)

In my post ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/141854#141854 ), I recommended reading the whole page so people would see just how much control you have over power saving in Linux. Control = options = decisions to make. Windows = all decisions made for you (so hope it works the way you need).

Basically, you can tell your hard drive to spin down, but that alone is probably not going to do what you want. Since you're constantly running processes on your computer (whether Linux or Windows computers), some of those processes--such as logging utilities and journaling filesystems and even simply modifying file access times on journaling or non-journaling filesystems--require almost constant disk writes. If you don't take that into account and tell your system to modify logging parameters when the disk spins down or tell it how and when to flush buffers to disk or to ignore writing access times to the filesystem, you could even get higher power usage with the spin-down than without.

On Linux, you can explicitly power off the monitor with software (as opposed to setting a timeout on a screensaver and waiting), explicitly throttle the CPU (as opposed to letting it scale performance based on usage--which, TTBOMK, is the only option for AMD in Windows; whereas Intel only uses the lowest CPU speed when on battery), and--as implied above--control usage of the disk. When appropriate decisions for each of these (and other power saving methods) is made, you can maximize power savings for your particular usage of the system (no two systems are used exactly the same way).

On Windows, however, you have no control over these and many other settings. Windows seems to read the disk whenever it gets bored, and you have to trust that Microsoft decided that disk access was really necessary. You have to assume that Microsoft chose the best way to control all the power settings for you. Since there are maybe 5 settings (things like "Best Performance" and "Maximum Power Savings", IIRC), then I'm sure they've chosen the perfect settings for at least 5 people out there...

Sorry for the rant. I just see so many people pining for "Microsoft Linux" anymore, I feel its important to note the difference. If you really want someone to make all the decisions for you, go with Windows (that's exactly why I have never recommended any friends, family, or acquaintances switch to Linux--they don't want or need to know how or why or have any reason to control any of it, they just want it to work). If you want control over your hardware and software, Linux is the way to go.

Mike
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