what I think you should do is put her in the first desk in front of you and 
while teaching kinda look at her while talking as though you were having a one 
on one with her... and make her maybe more involved... I was kind of a slow 
learner, but one if my teachers put me in front of the class and would as me 
questions everyday and she said... vito you better be prepared and it worked... 
maybe try that... 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Simmy Bredal-Bell 
  To: NailTech@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:53 AM
  Subject: NailTech:: Re: Other teachers?


  Nicole,

  It's frustrating for the other students (and for you too) I know.  And you 
know, with all of the "bad" education out there, many teachers would probably 
just ignore the situation and get through having this student in the class.  
The very fact that you've put it out there shows you care about what you are 
doing and your students.  That's very cool.  I'm sure those of us who have 
experiences the "quality education" (not!) out there would have loved to have a 
teacher who even gave us (or a challenging student) a second thought.

  I agree w/ Debbie.   She sounds spacey and probably has some sort of 
concentration problem.  Talk to her privately, see if she is aware of it.  If 
she responds, see if you can work out a way to make sure she is on the same 
page with you and the class without embarrassing her.  Sometime humor helps to 
make the point but sometimes it makes it worse.  So work out a way to 
communicate with her during class that keeps her on track and doesn't interfere 
too much with the other students learning.  

  Some might say it's not fair to the others to have such a disruption, but I 
believe that we all need to learn to help each other.  What better time for the 
other techs to learn camaraderie than in school helping another tech, perhaps 
slower then them, to get the point.  JMHO.  Hope it helps!

  Simmy Bredal-Bell
  Vicki Peters Nail Products
  Team Vicki Partner
  E-File Certification Specialist
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  From: NailTech@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie 
Doerrlamm
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:57 PM
  To: NailTech@googlegroups.com
  Subject: NailTech:: Re: Other teachers?


  Nicole.. I haven't read all the other replies.. but is it possible this one 
has some kind of learning disability?? Maybe someone in the school can evaluate 
her if you don't have the proper background to make that assessment?? She 
sounds like a challenge for sure.. but her attitude also sounds like it is in 
the right place and her personality is well worth making an effort, going that 
extra mile for her to help make the lights come on in there :)

  I don;t know.. maybe if you think you have developed some level of repore 
(thats so spelled wrong..) with her.. you can take her outside and have an open 
discussion about her concentration??

  Debbie <<-- who occasionally also has under-drawer issues lately with 
dropping 12+ pounds

  At 01:08 PM 10/22/2008, you wrote:

    Hello fellow techs!!!
     
    Are there other instructors/educators on the list that could offer me some 
insight? I have a student that is driving me bananas. I will be explaining 
something (like just now, when I was talking about acrylic this morning and gel 
afterwards) and she will raise her hand and ask, "Are we going to be learning 
about acrylic and gel?" Hello????? Where were you for the last three hours???? 
I explained a fill and her question AFTERWARDS, when we had moved onto 
something else was, "What's a fill? When are you going to talk about that?" An 
hour later, when I was answering a question about pocket lift, she comes up 
with, "Ooooh, when you put this on and do this and do that....that's a fill, 
isn't it?" Well halelujah, The Eagle has landed!!!!
     
    Or here's an even better one, "When we do a manicure, do we have to do the 
WHOLE massage that's in our handouts, or do we just do the one that you showed 
us?" <-- bearing in mind, of course, that the one I showed them IS the one in 
thier handouts. I cringe inwardly when this girl sticks up her hand because I 
know that the other students are rolling their eyes. 
     
    I had to come in here and leave them to study quietly for the last 15 
minutes because the urge to shake my head and ask her what crack she was 
smoking had become overwhelming. This girl does not get anything. It all goes 
right over her head. I have a hell of a time keeping her occupied because right 
after I tell her to do something, she is off in la-la land again, either 
free-ranging through the school, staring off into space, or doing something 
completely different than what I've instructed her to do. It is to the point 
that I literally could spend my whole day just around her, keeping her in 
check, and of course I can't do that. I am not a babysitter, and when I have to 
corral one person like this, the quality of my teaching suffers because the 
other students don't get the attention that THEY deserve. 
     
    I can't believe she's 35. I swear its like dealing with a CHILD, trying to 
explain the simplest things to her and then listening to her response. She 
talks like a ten year old. She's very pleasant to deal with, extremely likable, 
she's not a bitchy person at all, but I swear she is on a whole other plane of 
reality that the rest of us aren't on!!! My ADHD son is easier to handle. In 
fact, if I buy this school, I am putting him through the program when he's old 
enough because at 14 he already does my nails:D....but you know, don't tell 
anyone......because doing your mom's nails is just not cool. 
     
    I can't use an electric cattle prod, or I'd have one already:) Suggestions? 
     

    Nicole Cormier
    Very Happy Instructor
    European School of Esthetics
    Winnipeg Manitoba
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