I agree with Kelley...this is a BUSINESS and you need (deserve) to be treated
as a fully professional business woman. The landlord (owner) taking away
something that you’d agreed upon when you started the deal nullifies that deal!
You should be either renegotiate a lower amount...or leave with no penalty.
Don’t let them guilt you. A deal is a deal!
I have given up trying to find space in an existing salon....didn’t happen.
So....now I am renting space in a salon suite situation (they’re very big here
in Dallas area). This was advertised to me as 8’ x 10’, 80 square feet....for
$150 per week, which comes to $649.50/mo. Amenities include water, sewer,
electricity, trash and simple cable TV (and a flat screen TV mounted in your
room), sink in your room, nice common area bathrooms and waiting area, W/D on
the premises and a break room with fridge, micro, dishwasher. After I signed
the papers and actually got in there to clean...it measures out at 7.5’ by
10’....which is 75 square feet. I got them to knock some of the rent off the
first few weeks, so I’ll live with it. I told the leasing agent I was NOT happy
with their misrepresentation. She tried to say, “Well the suites are actually
measured from the middle of the walls for each unit” BUT if that is true, then
why didn’t they say the space was 8’ x 10 1/2’??? You can’t have it both ways!
I told her she needed to be more precise and state “usable space” in the
future.... <sigh>
ANYWAY...when comparing commercial rental space, this prices out to
$8.33/square foot, (or if it’s quoted on an annual basis, as sometimes is done,
$104/sq ft) which is actually pretty high, but the utilities makes it come back
into balance. ($150/75 = $2 x 4.33 wks per month x 12 mos) Keep this in mind
when doing your homework....I feel it’s really no one’s business what I make in
my space, so basing my rent on my income is not something I’d want to do. Just
saying.
Good luck!
Karen
Grapevine
Where Morning Glory, flowers again! lol
From: Kelley
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:19 AM
To: nailtech@googlegroups.com
Cc: nailtech@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Question for booth renting salon owners
I agree with Jess, no pedicure chair. I would be looking somewhere else to go.
I just moved from one place to a new place I now have my own space not
community space and my rent is 300 a month . Up from 250 but well worth the
extra in my opinion to not have people interjecting into my conversations and
such.
By taking away the pedi station it will make an impact on your income
potential, and is like telling a hairdresser they can't do any perms. Limiting
you is not in your best interest . and doing pedis in the waiting room is not
good for you ( the proper ergonomics ) or the business.
Good luck, if I know anything the women here only want to better our business
and would never lead you astray .
Kelley
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Jess in WA <luvna...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think 25% is quite high. I'm in a busy salon area, and at my last salon I
was paying $500, the hair stylists paid between $1k-1500 - however they can
make that in a day! Massage therapists also make far more per hour, so I can
understand her paying more. Lots of salons get rid of nail tech spaces because
it doesn't make as much money for the salon. Others keep them because they
know its good foot traffic and they might choose other services. I think you
should fight for a decrease with you having half the space as the other, and
losing the pedi chair. One of the reasons I left my last salon and got my own
space is because they took my pedi room away and I was then doing pedis out in
the main waiting area, which wasn't comfortable and far too loud. I think if
she's going to take equipment away that needs to make a difference.
Jess
On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:38:38 PM UTC-7, ebbieday in VA wrote:
I am doing research to back my case in my current salon. I booth rent for
$500.00/month, which is somewhat high for my area. The owner has informed us
(I am one of 2 booth renters...the other is a busy massage therapist) that our
rent is going up by @25.00/month, and will increase by that amount every year.
I think this is pretty steep. In 4 years I will be paying $600.00/month. and
so on with no cap. I don't disagree on increasing rent yearly AS LONG as it is
reasonable. This is where it gets even sticker.
Initially I agreed to this rent figure because it included a plumbed pedi
chair. The room is very small, and the chair has since been disposed of as it
began leaking and couldn't be repaired (it was a used unit that they purchased
before I started there. They told me they bought the pedi chair in order to
attract a nail tech, which it did add to the allure.) They refused to replace
it as a new unit was too expensive. I now have a sink in the room in the place
of the chair. (yes, I have learned many lessons) I know that the massage
therapist pays $25.00 less a month than I do, for more than double the space.
My question is this: What is the normal standard expectation for basing
rent and rent increases?
My understanding is there are 2 ways of establishing rent. 1) by square
footage, and 2) by income tier, with increase being based on a percentage of
the base. (In our region, stylists commonly pay ~$150-$200/week, and nailtechs
$100-$125/week to start). I am trying to learn so if I'm wrong, please let me
know. I also know that an incoming stylist that is going to booth rent will
also be paying the same rent as I am with the same increase yearly. The other
2 stylists are commission based.
Does anyone have any input? Sorry so long.
Thanks!
Debbie in VA
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