On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The MLC should send out a form letter which is carefully worded to avoid
giving offense but which firmly states that after polling the members
opinions on this issue, most people felt that this topic does not belong
on NANOG. Followed by a  request for comments on the issue to be mailed
privately to the MLC and not discussed on the list.

Ah - political correctness comes to NANOG.  Next you'll be asking people
to not be 'mean' on IRC, and not discuss 'adult entertainment' at meetings.

But these are details. The principle is for the MLC to be seen to be
active, for the MLC to solicit comments explicitly, and for the MLC to
pop up whenever these borderline topics seem to be getting out of hand.
The very fact that the MLC is more visible and explicitly asks for
member comments, is likely to reduce the number of off-topic or
borderline topic postings.

I'm afraid that I don't share your faith.

Quite frankly, if an MLC member tells someone that their post is
off-topic, period, that is unlikely to be effective. Then the issue has
to escalate, on and off list until the member is banned or suspended. It
is more effective to tell someone privately, that after soliciting
comments from the members, the consensus leans towards reducing the
amount of their postings. You can include choice phrases from the member
comments, as long as those phrases are not abusive. The fact is that
borderline off-topic messages have a constituency on the list that is
interested in them and that constituency is likely to send thank-you
messages to the poster. An MLC caution is not sufficient to convince
such posters that they have breached the list rules. But an MLC message
enumerating the comments that have been received about the postings is
more likely to have an effect.

IMNSHO, people that won't listen, won't listen.  We've seen that very
clearly on the list over time.  An MLC message enumerating the comments
is likely to receive "People support me in private email" and "It's just
the mailing list cabal" accusations, the same way as they do now.

cheers!
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