Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> < no sc hat at all >
>
> the appended message earned me a formal complaint from the mlc.
No, it did not. It earned you a polite request from Marty to "show
some leadership" and not engage in off-topic personal sniping on the
list. When you asked if it was a formal request, I replied that it
could be if you wanted it to be, and we are still waiting for a yes or
no on that.
Since you have stated privately that you have no problem with
publishing communications and are in favor of more transparency,
please take the step of forwarding both the mail that Marty sent and
the mail that I sent along to nanog-futures so that people can draw
their own conclusions. While you're at it, you might want to consider
forwarding the petulant reply that my clarification elicited; it will
provide valuable context for those who wish to understand any actions
that the MLC may or may not take.
> they
> have accused me of making a personal attack. of course, joe nacchio
> (apologies for misspelling at first), is a very well known public
> figure; hence, even if what i said was untrue, which it is not, he is
> not a protected person.
The issue is not whether he's a protected person or not. Offhand
comments about Joe Nacchio, Bernie Ebbers, or anyone else's criminal
record are clearly outside of the scope of NANOG, unless they can
somehow be tied into routing policy or something like that.
> i have appealed the mlc's formal complaint to the sc.
Given that you have not received a formal warning yet, I would say
that this is a little bit premature.
> < sc hat on >
>
> but i am extremely interested in finding out how many people receive
> similar or analogous reprimands from the mlc, and what form they take
> e.g., their complaint against me was cc:d to the sc, and, as an sc
> member, i have never seen others.
Perhaps that is because other SC members comport themselves in a
manner that is more in line with their leadership position in the
community. I'd say that it's entirely reasonable to CC the SC when
one of their own is acting churlish, even when such an occurrance is
not particularly out of character.
Further comments on this will be deferred to Alex Pilosov, who is the
chair of the MLC these days.
---Rob
> randy
>
> ---
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:43:09 +0900
> From: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Martin Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?
>
>> AU's infrastructure has a long been a quagmire of political fumbling and
>> organised chaos.
>
> hey, i thought it was great of you folk to take joe nacio, convicted
> felon, off our hands.
>
> randy
