I don't deny that you have some very good questions. I agree that forthcoming transparency would be an excellent thing.
But having been through the creation of a new entity and separation from the old entity before, I can see a large number of factors which might be making these things difficult: 1. There's a lot of work to be done creating a new entity. Who are these fulltime paid-for-by-nanog-finances people to do this work? This is a cart->horse problem they have to solve. 2. I agree completely that the new entity should be completely transparent to the members. This is a good idea. However, I have seen major problems with this in the past, where the original entity was unwilling to meet the new transparency desires of the new entity. This makes it very difficult until after significant progress in the transition is completed. So push for transparency for the new organization, but understand that transparency from Merit regarding the finances and employee information related to NANOG may never become public, and thus meeting minutes held under their structure may never become available. 3. If there is a mailing list on the Internet with more (perhaps well-meaning) armchair critics, I can't imagine one more. I applaud the NANOG SC for being willing to take on this bunch. I also absolutely understand why they aren't going to write personal responses to every single member asking the same thing. This very quickly becomes personal one-on-one training of the questioner on the topics and issues of which they are not familiar. I believe that creating a FAQ that attempts to answer the essential questions is a good use of their time. Summary: This isn't easy. There's a lot of work to do, given 0 paid workers to do it. Give them a chance to prioritize their first deliverables, read the deliverables, and comment on that. Any complaints about the lack of personal hands-on training (read: direct e-mail replies to each question asked) on the issues facing the creation of an organization and the issues they face doing it are simply out of line. They could easily expend every moment they have available to work on NANOG doing this kind of personal training. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness _______________________________________________ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures
